Can we end this troll here -- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Mar 20, 2021, at 20:48, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It's one thing to use a GUI tool when it's convenient and quick. I think > anyone that's ever experienced setting up a Unifi controller would probably > prefer provisioning a new 802.11ac AP from the GUI rather than doing it > manually at a command line. > > But it's another thing to consider that we have a whole new generation of > people who don't know and don't care what's going underneath the GUI and > might not be able to do anything with the OS running on bare metal, if they > have to. > > If we intend to abstract away configuring devices to a GUI level only and not > care about what's going on under the hood, then it's time for everyone to > just run out and renew their MCSE certifications and buy Meraki subscriptions. > > > >> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:35 PM David Siegel <arizonag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ...not to mention that all mature networks are moving more towards GUI front >> ends for their automated network. As the complexity of a network increases, >> CLI access becomes considerably more risky. >> >> The idea that "real engineers use the CLI" is dinosaur thinking that will >> eventually land those with that philosophy out of a job. Just my personal >> $.02 (though I'm certainly not alone in my opinion). >> >> But I'd like to reiterate that the board's goal with modernization is not to >> alienate anyone from the existing community by forcing them into a >> web-interface. Discourse is under evaluation, and if it doesn't accomplish >> the goal we'll try something else or build our own tool. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:52 PM Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM scott <sur...@mauigateway.com> wrote: >>> [...] >>>> Of course, one would >>>> not find an HTTP GUI on the bigger networks dealt with on this list; >>>> only on the tiny networks. So they're beginning learners and are, of >>>> course, welcome. They will lean a lot, just as I did in the early days >>>> and do every day now days. >>> [...] >>>> scott >>> >>> Let's see... >>> Google: Gmail >>> Microsoft: Hotmail/Outlook/Office365 >>> Yahoo/VerizonMedia: Yahoo Mail >>> >>> I'd have to say, there's some pretty big networks on this list that >>> use HTTP GUIs for their email. >>> >>> Of course, you might be big enough that you look down on the >>> networks of Google, Microsoft, and VZM as "tiny networks" -- in >>> which case, you're definitely entitled to your opinion, as all 8000 >>> pound gorillas that look down on the puny 800 lb gorillas are. ;) >>> >>> Matt >>>
