Extreme has excellent MEF implementations.  I've never used their MPLS 
implementations, but it's definitely there on, I think, all their products.  I 
only have the X620 model in my network, which may or may not work for you.  
Beware using any EXOS-based product (anything that starts with "X") unless 
you're already familiar with EXOS!  I cannot emphasise this enough!
Extreme's other product lines come from Nortel/Avaya and Broadcom heritage, and 
also have good MEF implementations (and more-or-less-sane OSes).  They have 
MPLS support, but again, no experience with it.
I can't give much advice on pricing as I get both edu & gov discounts, but they 
are competitive with Arista and Cisco when we go to RFP.

Also, Juniper's MX (and maybe PTX?) families support MEF if that's a hard 
requirement.  I know some but not all EX switches have had both MEF and MPLS, 
too.  Beware many EX models have pretty minimalist MPLS implementations (e.g. 
no VPLS).  Agreed on their pricing, though, which is why I don't have any 🙂.  
But for 4x10G the MX104 is a very nice box - if you can afford it.

Lastly, have you seen https://www.mef.net/certify/technology-registry/ ?

-Adam

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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+athompson=merlin.mb...@nanog.org> on behalf of 
Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
Sent: May 26, 2021 11:39
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs

For MPLS and MEF switches, I know Juniper, Cisco, and Nokia are commonly talked 
about on this list. However, I was wondering if anyone has evaluated other 
brands? We are not interested in looking at chinese based vendors, so ZTE and 
Huawei are not an option. Anyone else worth looking into?

We have used Juniper's ACX line primarily, but there is a big gap in their 
product line. The ACX2200 has only two 10G ports. The next jump up from there 
is the ACX710 with 24 10G ports. They have nothing in between that has 4-12 10G 
ports. Not to mention, Juniper is very proud price wise. We are looking for 
cost efficient 10G NIDs with at least 4 10G ports on them and aggregation boxes 
with at least 12 10G ports on them with 25g/100G uplinks.

Ciena seems to have multiple options available with Segment Routing, MPLS, and 
streaming telemetry support. I am probably most interested in what Ciena has to 
offer. Has anyone deployed the 3000 or 5000 product line of Ciena? How does it 
compare to Juniper? The Ciena 3924 is sub $1000 for example, and has 4 10G 
ports on it.

Adva has quite a few options as well, but I don't think their routing stack is 
as strong as Ciena's.

Tejas was an unknown player to me, but they seem to have a couple of options 
that fit the bill. Price wise, I have heard the run circles around everyone.

RAD has some options, but their pricing looks much higher than Ciena.

Accedian looked interesting, but it seems they don't make aggregation switches, 
only NIDs.

ECI Telecom / Ribbon seems to have some options, but I have not talked to them.

What does Nokia and Cisco have in this space, and price wise is it going to 
compare to these less known vendors?







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