All I'm going to say is at $5/foot for fiber, even if it's 864 count, you are royally overpaying for material!
Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 3:42 AM Baldur Norddahl <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:53 AM Masataka Ohta < > mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote: > >> Baldur Norddahl wrote: >> >> > Sorry but that claim is completely wrong. Cabling cost scales linearly >> with >> > the number of cores. >> > > My apology to Masataka Ohta for my too strong wording by calling you > wrong. The moderators put me in place. I wanted to say I disagree with the > claim. > > >> Most of cabling cost is cost to lay cables. Backhoe costs. >> Space factor of a fiber cable is negligible if you put a >> cable into utility tunnels which is wide, especially when >> tunnels were used for copper cables of POTS. >> > > It is true that trenching costs are higher than the cables themselves. But > that does not mean the cables are cheap and that it is an > insignificant cost. Cables + duct is about 20% of our cost to lay down the > network. Not having huts with active equipment spread all around is also a > huge cost saving that can not be ignored. > > > The cost of 144 is not >> > double that of 72. 288 is not double the cost of 144. >> >> Yup. When PON was first conceived several tens of years ago, core >> cost a lot. But, today... >> > > I should point out that I probably buy more cable than most. The exact > pricing is of course not public, but lets say a core cost somewhere between > 1 to 2 USD cents per meter. Then you simply multiply up to get an > approximate price of the cable. Holds true for cables with more than about > 12 cores. This is because with larger cables the cost of the cores dominate > the price of the cable. When you buy as much as we do, you do not really > get a huge rebate for buying more cores in a single cable - we already buy > insane amounts of core - it is just distributed in more cables. > > The moderator is right in that we do not seem to progress much here in > this discussion. So lets agree to disagree. But let me get this closing > comment in anyway... the guy that actually builds PON networks says he does > so, because it is significantly cheaper. We have no other motivations as > our network is not open to third parties in any case. Our motivation is to > stay profitable. > > Regards, > > Baldur > > >