Above 40km I like coherent systems with FEC. You can feed the juniper into a 
pair of SolidOptics 1U appliances 

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> On Sep 24, 2021, at 2:35 PM, Edwin Mallette <edwin.malle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just bite the bullet and use 3rd party optics.  It’s easier and once  you 
> make the switch, lower cost. 
> 
> Ed
> 
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> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2021, at 12:29 AM, Joe Freeman <j...@netbyjoe.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Open Line Systems can get you to 80K with a 100G DWDM Optic (PAM4) -
>> 
>> I've used a lot of SmartOptics DCP-M40 shelves for this purpose. They also 
>> have transponders that allow you to go from a QSFP28 to CFP to do coherent 
>> 100G out to 120Km using the DCP-M40, without a need for regen or extra amps 
>> in line.
>> 
>> The DCP-M40 is a 1RU box. It looks like a deep 40ch DWDM filter but includes 
>> a VAO, EDFA amp, and a WSS I think. 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 4:40 PM Randy Carpenter <rcar...@network1.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How is everyone accomplishing 100GbE at farther than 40km distances?
>>> 
>>> Juniper is saying it can't be done with anything they offer, except for a 
>>> single CFP-based line card that is EOL.
>>> 
>>> There are QSFP "ZR" modules from third parties, but I am hesitant to try 
>>> those without there being an equivalent official part.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The application is an ISP upgrading from Nx10G, where one of their fiber 
>>> paths is ~35km and the other is ~60km.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> -Randy

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