I'm still growing in my understanding of SR-MPLS and SRv6.... but I can say 
that about everything... seems like the one constant in life, and particularly 
network technology... is change.

Like ytti (saku) mentioned, with SR/SPRING the IGP is finally carrying the 
Label/Sid, so we no longer need a label distribution mechanism running 
alongside the IGP (don't need LDP or RSVP).  And for SRv6 vice SR-MPLS, the SID 
is now the IPv6 address, and not the MPLS Label.  So we don't even need MPLS, 
but can accomplish network virtualization using a pure IPv6 core.  Reminds me 
of Cell Mode MPLS vs Frame Mode MPLS... whereas the ATM Cell header VPI/VCI was 
repurposed as the MPLS label, until we went with straight MPLS shim headers.

In case you are interested, I put a video on my channel showing a quick look at 
SRv6.  Using Cisco CML, IOS-XR 7.2.2, IS-IS, only using FE80 link local 
addressing.  L3VPN to prove end to end Customer connectivity over SRv6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrryHbjpnAc

The P node is quite interesting in it's ability to handle this with little to 
no additional protocols.

-Aaron





-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+aaron1=gvtc....@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Saku Ytti
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 2:35 AM
To: Adam Thompson <athomp...@merlin.mb.ca>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: SRv6 Capable NOS and Devices

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 00:00, Adam Thompson <athomp...@merlin.mb.ca> wrote:

> My question is, why do you think you need Segment Routing at all?  Is your 
> network so enormously large and/or complex that IS-IS (and/or MPLS-TE) isn't 
> capable of handling it?
> So far, SR looks like a solution in search of a problem, at least to me.

SR is terrific, SRv6 is snake-oil.

Everyone needs some type of tunnelling in most modern applications of the 
network. maybe for pseudowires, repair, l3 vpns, traffic engineering or just 
removing state and signalling from backbone.
Signalling labels via IGP is obviously better than via LDP.

--
  ++ytti

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