For those persons who have not received an answer from the Amazon peering email addresses, or a BGP session with traffic actually flowing across it...
Obviously Amazon does not share their own traffic volume criteria for selecting a peer vs. sending traffic to them over a giant IP transit provider. I wonder what the actual threshold is as measured in traffic volume from netflow data to/from the Amazon AS before they start taking a potential peer seriously. Obviously if you're somebody big like a regional ILEC or a cable operator that has half of a major city as your incumbent territory, it's not even a question, but for smaller ISPs it's an interesting question to discover where exactly that threshold is. On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 13:26, Kevin Burke <kbu...@burlingtontelecom.com> wrote: > Have gotten into the habit of making annual peering requests to Amazon > asking turn up a session on a shared IXP peering. Once was able to get a > peering session turned up, no traffic was ever shifted onto it before we > moved out of that carrier hotel a year or so later. The amazon peering > email box does have humans surfing it. > > > > Over the years a number of network operators have mentioned getting little > response from Amazon about peering requests. > > > > For a company like Amazon they have little reason to do peering with small > scale operators. They already peer with the tier 1’s and assume I will do > what I need to balance my bits. The fancy algorithms they use to balance > traffic around does allow them to operate a decent network with fewer staff > and less links to the small ISPs. Just a network operator here, trying to > get my bytes across the wire. > > > > Enjoy your weekend! > > > > Kevin Burke > > 802-540-0979 > > Burlington Telecom > > 200 Church St, Burlington, VT > > > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+kburke=burlingtontelecom....@nanog.org> *On > Behalf Of *Lincoln Dale > *Sent:* Thursday, February 3, 2022 12:20 PM > *To:* Kelly Littlepage <ke...@onechronos.com> > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: Amazon peering revisited > > > > WARNING!! This message originated from an *External Source*. Please use > proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or > responding to this email. > > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM Kelly Littlepage via NANOG < > nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > > Hi all, a nanog thread started on November 23, 2018 discussed the > challenges of getting Amazon peering sessions turned up. Has anyone had > luck since/does anyone have a contact they could refer me to — off-list or > otherwise? The process of getting PNI in place with other CSPs was > straightforward, but I haven't heard back from AWS after a month and > several follow-ups. Our customers would really benefit from us getting this > sorted. > > > > There are many folks that here that are in AWS. Assuming you have followed > what is in https://aws.amazon.com/peering/ (and > https://aws.amazon.com/peering/policy/) then send me details privately > about what/when/who and I'll reach out internally to the relevant folks. > > >