Not to mention. It is viable traffic to monitor, if I know that I get X number of icmp traffic through a point in tranfer consistently and that starts to drop off considerably that it may be a failing connection due to some circumstance I should start checking that equipment.
And if im that connection in the middle... that is money ! On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 03:02:19PM +0000, J. Hellenthal wrote: > > Just think of all the smokeping probes that are out there plus services > like UptimeRobot and similiar. > > you can't just put something up as a provider of a service and say ... > ya know im not going to plan for this... traffic for them of any kind is > money... not only to them but to their IX's as well. > > ya just don't willy nilly cut that shit down and not expect a huge > blowup to happen. > > On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 03:53:15PM +0100, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > > > > Yup. And Google folks accounted for the world pinging them all day long. > > > > I wouldn't call using DNS resolvers as best "am I connected to internet > > over this interface" tool though. A day, year or 5 years from now the same > > team may decide to drop/filter and then thousands of hardcoded "handmade > > automation solutions" will break. And I believe that's closer to what > > Masataka was trying to convey. > > > > — > > Łukasz Bromirski > > > > > On 9 Feb 2022, at 14:23, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote: > > > > > >> On 2/9/22 15:00, Masataka Ohta wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Wrong. It is not bad, at least not so bad, pinging properly > > >> anycast DNS servers. > > >> > > >> The point of anycast is resistance to DDoS. > > >> > > >> But, relying on hard coded 8.8.8.8 is not a good idea because > > >> DNS service of the address may be terminated. > > >> > > >> Instead, properly anycast root name servers are authoritative > > >> resources provided for public DNS queries which can be used for > > >> pinging, though pinging so with ICMP should be less painful > > >> for the servers. > > > > > > That's like saying you won't have an egg for dinner because it's > > > typically had for breakfast. > > > > > > Users don't care what infrastructure has been designated for. If they can > > > find another use for it other than designed, which serves their > > > interests, they will use it. > > > > > > We need to allow, and account, for that. > > > > > > Mark. > > -- > The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a > lot about anticipated traffic volume. -- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
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