My viewpoint, and the reason I recommended against it, is that it gives Putin something he has wanted for a while, which is a Russia in which he is in control of information flows. We do for him what he has wanted for perhaps 20 years, and come out the bad guys - “the terrible west gut us off!”. I would rather have people in Russia have information flows that have a second viewpoint other than the Kremlin’s. I have no expectation that it will get through uncensored, but I would rather it was not in any sense “our fault” and therefore usable by Putin’s propaganda machine.
Sent from my iPad > On Mar 14, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Brian R <briansupp...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I can understand governments wanting this to be an option but I would let > them do blocking within their countries to their own people if that is their > desire. This is another pandoras box. Its bad enough that some countries > control this already to block free flow of information. > If global DNS is no longer trusted then many actors will start maintaining > their own broken lists (intentionally or unintentionally). > This will not stop Russia, they will just run their own state sponsored DNS > servers. We can imagine what else might be implemented on that concept... > Countries or users that still want access will do the same with custom DNS > servers. > This will take us down another path of no return as a global standard that is > not political or politically controlled. > The belief that the internet is open and free (as much as possible) will be > broken in one more way. > This will also accelerate the advancement of crypto DNS like NameCoin (Years > ago I liked the idea but I don't know how it is being run anymore.) or > UnstoppableDomains for example. Similar to what is starting to happen to > central banking as countries start shutting down bank accounts for political > reasons. > I am glad to see soo many people on here and many of the organizations > running these services state as much. > > Brian > > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+briansupport=hotmail....@nanog.org> on behalf of > Patrick Bryant <patr...@pbryant.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 2:47 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Dropping support for the .ru top level domain > > I don't like the idea of disrupting any Internet service. But the current > situation is unprecedented. > > The Achilles Heel of general public use of Internet services has always been > the functionality of DNS. > > Unlike Layer 3 disruptions, dropping or disrupting support for the .ru TLD > can be accomplished without disrupting the Russian population's ability to > access information and services in the West. > > The only countermeasure would be the distribution of Russian national DNS > zones to a multiplicity of individual DNS resolvers within Russia. Russian > operators are in fact implementing this countermeasure, but it is a slow and > arduous process, and it will entail many of the operational difficulties that > existed with distributing Host files, which DNS was implemented to overcome. > > The .ru TLD could be globally disrupted by dropping the .ru zone from the 13 > DNS root servers. This would be the most effective action, but would require > an authoritative consensus. One level down in DNS delegation are the 5 > authoritative servers. I will leave it to the imagination of others to > envision what action that could be taken there... > > ru nameserver = a.dns.ripn.net > ru nameserver = b.dns.ripn.net > ru nameserver = d.dns.ripn.net > ru nameserver = e.dns.ripn.net > ru nameserver = f.dns.ripn.net > > The impact of any action would take time (days) to propagate. >
