On 4 Apr 2022, at 8:16 PM, John Gilmore <g...@toad.com<mailto:g...@toad.com>> 
wrote:

Let's not undermine one of the few remaining widely distributed (with no
center) technical achievements behind the Internet -- the decentralized
routing system.

I'm on the board of a large legacy allocation that is deliberately NOT
an ARIN (or other RIR) member.  And I have a small address block of my
own, ditto.

ARIN doesn't provide authenticated RPKI entries for just anybody.  You
have to pay them for that service.  And in order to pay them, you have
to sign their contract.  And if you sign that contract, ARIN can take
away your legacy allocation -- anytime they decide it would be in their
best interest.  Whereas, if you don't sign, the courts have held that
you have a *property right* in your IP addresses and they *belong* to
you.  As a result, most legacy address holders (a large fraction of the
Internet addresses) have declined to sign such contracts, pay such
bills, and thus can't be in the ARIN authenticated routing registry.

Hello John -

Your legal summary is patently incorrect; I’d be happy to discuss it anytime 
with you – in public or private as you prefer – but the short version is that 
courts have indeed held that a party can have an interest (such as bankruptcy 
estate or probate estate interest) in specific rights to Internet number blocks 
in the ARIN registry, but that doesn’t equate to rights to free-held property 
(i.e. property that one can dispose of independently of interests of other 
parties in the same address block entries, such as ARIN’s right to enforce the 
community-policies for transfers, specify the format and content of registry 
entries, etc.)

The most often cited case in this regard is probably Nortel/Microsoft sale 
which did not proceed until the agreement was conditioned as ARIN required – 
reference [In re Nortel Networks, Inc., No. 09-10138, KG 2011 WL 110098, Docket 
# 5315, at 4 (Bankr. D. Del. 2011) (assignee’s interest limited to exclusive 
right to use)]

To date ARIN hasn’t never been instructed to update our registry contrary to 
our community-developed policies, and in fact, courts have repeated enforced 
conditions on transfer in bankruptcy, probate, and other contexts that the 
parties involved must comply with ARIN’s policies.   Feel free to reach out to 
any of the many IP address brokers out there 
<https://www.arin.net/resources/registry/transfers/stls/registered_facilitators/>
 and ask if you have any doubt on this...

For years, ARIN has been deliberately limiting access to the RPKI
registry as a lever to force people to sign one-sided contracts
beneficial to ARIN.  (They do the same lever thing when you sell an
address block -- at ARIN, it loses its legacy status, requiring the
recipient to pay annual rent to ARIN, and risk losing their block if
political winds shift.)

Let me make it a little simpler - ARIN’s RPKI services have been developed at 
the behest of its member community and are available to that same community who 
bear its costs.

You may not like such decisions, but you certainly have the ability to get 
involved to change things, or even run for the member-elected ARIN Board of 
Trustees if you so choose.  We recently even changed the membership structure 
recently so that any member with IPv4 or IPv6 resources (not just “ISPs”) can 
be a General Member and vote in the elections.   In the end, we are 
not-for-profit membership organization and will be accountable to members (and 
the community) that get involved in the organization.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


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