On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:44 AM Shawn L via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > > With the current shortages and lead times, I almost feel like I did back in > the beginning of my career --- > > > > Then it was "what can we do with what we can afford" now it's more like > "What can we do with what we have (or can actually get)"?
Like, working on better software... > > > Shawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Adam Thompson" <athomp...@merlin.mb.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 12:36pm > To: "Mark Tinka" <mark@tinka.africa>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: RE: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements > > [Not specific to the Juniper EoLs...] > > I sort of agree with Mark: > > I've been sampling a fairly wide variety of sources in various parts of the > global supply chain, and my synthesis of what they're saying is that we > probably won't *consistently* have the ready availability of "stuff" (both > electronic and not) we had pre-pandemic, for the rest of my career > (10-15yrs), and maybe not in the lifetimes of anyone reading this today, > either. > > Whether those sources are accurate, their interpretation is accurate, my > synthesis is accurate, whether I'm listening to the right people in the first > place... all debatable. I sure hope the above conclusion is wrong. > > One possible upside: it might slow down the incessant upgrade hamster-wheel > we're all running on? Imagine having enough time to do your job thoroughly > and properly... Yes, I know I'm dreaming :-). > > > Adam Thompson > Consultant, Infrastructure Services > MERLIN > 100 - 135 Innovation Drive > Winnipeg, MB R3T 6A8 > (204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only) > https://www.merlin.mb.ca > Chat with me on Teams: athomp...@merlin.mb.ca > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+athompson=merlin.mb...@nanog.org> On Behalf > > Of Mark Tinka > > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 11:19 AM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Re: Serious Juniper Hardware EoL Announcements > > > > > > > > On 6/14/22 18:06, JASON BOTHE via NANOG wrote: > > > > > Saw this coming a mile away. With chips and technology progressing > > despite ability to manufacture, I’m certain many are going to do this. > > > > All this will do is keep these boxes off the open market, which will > > simply bump up open market prices, with no incentive for the majority > > of > > folk to buy directly from the OEM. > > > > I suspect supply chain will improve within the next 12 months, but > > then > > regress and hit a massive crunch from around Q4'23 onward. How long > > for, > > I can't say... > > > > Mark. -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
