Seeing the little of that thread.

    I never understood why someone thinks their experience with Level 1 thru 3 staff reflect the actual situation.

    That was clearly an issue with network engineering and their processes.  Because a 14h downtime for, as Rogers says, "a specific equipment" is too big of a spin.

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On 7/9/22 21:18, Victor Kuarsingh wrote:
We should move on and focus on constructive comments vs. kicking an operator when they are down.

That said, demeaning comments, no matter what they are or whom they are targeted at, is not healthy and is not helpful.
regards,

Victor K

On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 9:11 PM L F <liz.faze...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Lest we ALL MOVE ON….


    Yes he said

    “RETARD” =

    The delay in processing the current status of a Situation…


    Lets move on to bigger n scarier Post mortems:


    Was This or Was this NOT

    A CYBERATTACK ???

    Done.

    Lets deal with REAL threats not PC references.

    Time to evaluate n re eval Our NTS!!

    Veni vidi vici 2022




    On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 5:01 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

        Can we have a discussion with the list admins about a list
        member appending a threat of violence to their outbound
        emails?  Whether serious or not.

        Does this person need directions to some local mental
        healthcare resources?


        On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 08:48, Keith Medcalf
        <kmedc...@dessus.com> wrote:


            >I can't either, but the reality right now seems to be
            that 911 calls are
            >failing for anyone on a Rogers cellphone.

            This is par for the course.  These people chose to deal
            with Rogers despite knowing the consequences.  It is like
            if you bought a Rogers Snowblower and it did not work. 
            That would mean that people who bought the Rogers
            Snowblower will not be using it to get rid of the snow
            that is preventing them from leaving their house.

            Mutatis mutandis when Rogers is down things that are
            Rogers dependent will not work.

            Some people are so retarded it is astonishing!

-- (CAUTION) You are advised that if you attack my person or
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            respectively.  If you are brandishing (or in possession)
            of a weapon then lethal force will be applied to your
            person in accordance with the law.  This means that your
            misadventures may end in your death. Consider yourself
            cautioned and govern your actions appropriately.

            >-----Original Message-----
            >From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+kmedcalf=dessus....@nanog.org>
            On Behalf Of
            >Eric Kuhnke
            >Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2022 13:34
            >To: jim deleskie <deles...@gmail.com>
            >Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
            >Subject: Re: Rogers Outage Canada
            >
            >
            >I have seen anecdotal reports that the mobile network is
            in a half broken
            >state that phones remain registered to, so a 911 call
            will attempt and
            >then fail.
            >
            >
            >This is unlike what would happen if you had a US/Canada
            cellphone with
            >battery power but no SIM card in it that would search for
            any available
            >network in RF range for a 911 call if needed.
            >
            >
            >On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 12:31, jim deleskie <deles...@gmail.com
            ><mailto:deles...@gmail.com> > wrote:
            >
            >
            >       i cant see BGP taking out SS7.
            >
            >       -jim
            >
            >       On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:45 PM Snowmobile2004
            ><greenjosh6...@gmail.com <mailto:greenjosh6...@gmail.com>
            > wrote:
            >
            >
            >               According to Cloudflare Radar
            ><https://radar.cloudflare.com/asn/812?date_filter=last_24_hours>
            , Rogers
            >BGP announcements spiked massively to levels 536,777%
            higher than normal
            >(343,601 vs 64 normally) just minutes before the outage.
            I would not be
            >surprised if this happened to be the culprit.
            >
            >               Regards,
            >               Josh Green
            >
            >               On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:19 PM Andrew
            Paolucci via NANOG
            ><nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> > wrote:
            >
            >
            >                       In the early hours of the morning
            around 2-3am my modem
            >got hit with a configuration update that caused a DHCP
            release that
            >wasn't renewed for about two hours, after rollback the
            connection was
            >fine for 3 hours before this network wide outage.
            >
            >
            >                       Maybe a failed night time update
            was attempted again
            >during office hours, I've heard daytime guys are still
            WFH and night
            >shift is in building.
            >
            >
            >                       I expect we'll never get a real
            explanation. Rogers is
            >notorious for withholding any type of helpful or
            technical information.
            >
            >
            >                       Sent from my inoperable Rogers
            Mobile via emergency eSIM.
            >
            >
            >                       Regards,
            >
            >                       Andrew Paolucci
            >                       -------- Original Message --------
            >                       On Jul. 8, 2022, 1:48 p.m., Jay
            Hennigan < j...@west.net
            ><mailto:j...@west.net> > wrote:
            >
            >
            >                               On 7/8/22 07:44, Robert
            DeVita wrote: > Does anyone
            >have information on a widespread Rogers outage in Canada.
            I > have
            >customers with multiple sites down. There's discussion on
            the Outages
            >mailing list. Seems widespread, affecting all services,
            mobile, voice,
            >Internet. No cause or ETR posted yet. -- Jay Hennigan -
            j...@west.net
            ><mailto:j...@west.net> Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
            503 897-8550 -
            >WB6RDV
            >
            >
            >
            >               --
            >
            >               Josh Green.




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