> On Nov 22, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Joe Maimon <jmai...@jmaimon.com> wrote: > > John Curran wrote: >> >> By the way, you shouldn’t feel particularly bad about skipping out on the >> interoperability requirement – anything involving interworking with the >> installed Internet is hard, and this is the same lesson that the IPv6 folks >> found out the hard way… I will confess that I was a member of the IETF's >> IPng Directorate and thus inherently complicit in that particular fiasco – > > John, > > Flags days on the internet of today have proven to be of limited value.
Joe - I am not suggesting a flag day for 240/4 (or any other particular approach) - merely noting that anyone who wishes to promote 240/4 has a wide range of options to consider when they decide to get serious and actually consider interoperability approaches. > The part I feel bad about is that I am actually un-involved in much of anyway > with the 240/4 or other ideas, my sole input has been to attempt to encourage > serious consideration and to rebut naysaying. Serious consideration requires a serious proposal - I don’t think we’ve seen one yet. > Yes, a standards update is only the beginning of a real effort, although > plenty has changed even without that. > > Yes, there may and likely will be a large extent of interoperability and > usability challenges for quite some time, perhaps even enough time that the > issue becomes moot. > > Yes, it may be insurmountable. > > Yes, it may render 240/4 unusable and undesirable to the extent that it has > little contributory effect on IPv4. > > However it may not and discouraging serious consideration is actually a > contributing factor preventing any such potential. I certainly am not discouraging serious consideration… simply awaiting something sufficient complete to discuss. (Saying that “this proposal likely will create interoperability and usability challenges – but let’s all talk about the merits of it while ignoring that detail for now” doesn’t cut it – I’ve seen that approach once before and hasn’t turned out particularly well for anyone involved…) Best wishes, /John p.s. Disclaimer(s) - my views alone - please remember to have your arms and legs fully inside before the ride starts...