The problem with these switch suggestions is the lack of RFC2544 testing, and 
jitter + latency monitoring required for meeting SLA. That is why I mentioned 
the FPGA solution.

Ryan Hamel

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The Juniper EX4100-F-12T is pretty nice. Fanless, 1RU, 4x SFP+, 2x 10G Copper 
which can also be used to power up the switch, and 12x 1G Copper ports. 
EVPN/VXLAN requires an additional license. They don’t break the bank, our use 
case is for a CPE as well.

Brandon

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Hello, all.
I’m having difficulty finding vendors, never mind products, that fit my need.

We have a small but growing number of L2 (bridged) customers that have diverse 
fiber paths available, and, naturally, want to make use of them.
We have a solution for this: we extend the edge of our EVPN VXLAN fabric right 
to the customer premise.  The customer-prem device needs 4x10G SFP+ cages (2 
redundant paths, plus LAG to customer), and the switches we currently use, 
Arista 7020Rs, are quite expensive if I’m deploying one one per customer.  
(Nice switches, but overkill here – I don’t need 40/100G, and I don’t need 24 
SFP+ ports.  And they still take forever to ship.)

We use RFC7438 §6.3 “vlan-aware-bundle” mode, not §6.1 “vlan-based” mode, which 
limits our choices somewhat.  I might be willing to entertain spinning up a 
separate VXLAN mesh using RFC7438 §6.1 (“vlan-based”) and static VTEPs if it 
saves me a lot of pain.

However, I’m having trouble finding small & cheaper 1U (or even 
desktop/wallmount) devices that have 4 SFP+ cages, and can do VXLAN, in the 
first place.
Who even makes CPE gear with SFP+ ports?  (Other than Mikrotik CRS309-1G-8S+IN 
/ CRS317-1G-16S+RM, which are nice, but our policy requires vendor support 
contracts, so… no-go.)

Vendors?  Model#s, if you happen to know any?

Reply here or privately, whatever floats your boat – any pointers appreciated!

Adam Thompson
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