“Big, undersea, mpls network”. Doesn’t get much cooler than that ;) Aaron
> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, scott via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > > > >> On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote: >> According to Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>: >>> -=-=-=-=-=- >>> >>> It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati >>> Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own >>> independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during >>> the era of the pre-1984 Bell system. >> Not that unique, SNET was also a Bell affiliate in most of Connecticut. >> Hawaiian Tel has a very painful history. It was independent until >> 1967, then bought by GTE, then merged into Verizon along with the rest >> of GTE in 2000, then sold to a hedge fund in 2004 which knew nothing >> about telephony and ran it into bankruptcy, then an independent public >> company from 2010 to 2017, when it was bought by Cincinnati Bell, >> which in turn was bought in 2021 by Australian conglomerate Macquarie. > > Yep, that's it. And the hedge fund (The Carlyle Group) thing was a complete > disaster. I was here for all that. Fugly is all I can say. > > > >> Running phone systems on islands is very expensive. There's only >> 160,000 people on Maui, about the same as Salinas CA, but separated >> from the rest of the world by a lot of water. > > We have a lot of undersea fiber and it is all connected into one big MPLS > network for the internet stuff. There is still SS7 stuff out there, too. I > am unfamiliar with that part. > > scott
