On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 10:10 AM, Christopher Morrow < morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 11:39 PM Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> > wrote: > > On 8/21/23 7:09 PM, Diogo Montagner wrote: > > I would first try to understand what you are trying to achieve. JUNOS is > very flexible on this front and I am wondering why you think yacc is the > right way to achieve what you are trying to do. > > Drive by comment: > > Perhaps the OP is trying to parse a (pile of) config file(s) downstream of > the generation thereof and has no ability to alter their generation. > > this is a common problem (or is common when I look at things, perhaps I'm > looking wrongly, but...) > I'd love to have something that parsed all of my device type configs and > output the results into a > 'database' that i could then ask questions of like: > "Hey, what NTP servers are configured on all devices?" > "Hey, which devices have this <access-list/firewall/user> configured on > them?" > > > Isn't this YANG/NETCONF, and squish it all into DB/directory full of files? Basically a more standardized format for representing device configurations / states? W There are a host of other things I could ask those are but 2 simple > examples, and YES I can > grep/sed/awk|sort|uniq|sort-rn my way to success for the 2 examples I > provided... but really > that's NOT the way I want to do this, and I do really have a bunch of > other questions I'd > like to ask, regularly, to solve rollout-of-new-feature / compliance / > legal / troubleshooting / etc > questions. > > In looking around there are examples of some of this, in a way, the most > common thing > I end up looking at, and getting sad about, is some java monstrosity > (who's name escapes me) > but has shown up in a few nanog presentations over the years... it makes > me sad because it's > not super useful in my world :( 'hard to use' is probably the best way to > describe it. > > One note about XML and Juniper, the schema changes by OS version, it > changes quite a bit :( > You CAN parse through it reasonably well with python lxml.Etree, because > (I think) python's parse > is VERY forgiving. If you attempt this path with golang :( you will be > sad, very sad :( because > the go->xml world is very 'build a struct of structs that mirrors the xml > tree' and 'changes at every > OS version' means now you have a LOT of versions of that :( maintenance > gets back to saku's > comment about feature velocity :( > > I do see: > https://pypi.org/project/juniper-nxpy/ > > which may be useful to you as well Lyndon. > (I'd also point to tftp as not being the super best option from a security > and reliability perspective, > but if that's what you've got that's what you've got... you COULD have the > switch cronjobs curl/post > to an https destination with little hard work, and a gain in > reliabilty/security) > > -chris >