> > RIB, FIB doesnt matter, internet is our future, so lets invest in it. >
Uh, ok. On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 1:25 PM VOLKAN SALİH <volkan.salih...@gmail.com> wrote: > I dont even have money for food/living. > > i am working poor. > > poverty line is 40 thousands turkish liras here.. > > but for a green card, I can carve mr leber or mr schaeffer settlement-free! > > *JK!* > > lucifer told me to ask for green card, too.. ;P > > you guys become rich this way.. by playing penny pincher. > > I asked global firms like Huawei, not some local company called ADAMS! > > RIB, FIB doesnt matter, internet is our future, so lets invest in it. > > > 29.09.2023 20:13 tarihinde Jason Baugher yazdı: > > Let me see if I can summarize, tell me where I’m wrong… > > > > You: Give me this for free, give me that for free, sponsor me, why isn’t > HE giving me something for free, everyone else should spend money to > upgrade infrastructure to handle my request for /27, but I shouldn’t have > to pay for anything… > > > > Jason > > > > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+jasonbaugher=adamstel....@nanog.org> > <nanog-bounces+jasonbaugher=adamstel....@nanog.org> *On Behalf Of *VOLKAN > SALIH > *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2023 2:45 AM > *To:* Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.edu...@huawei.com> > <vasilenko.edu...@huawei.com>; Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> > <o...@delong.com> > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ? > > > > CAUTION: This email is from *OUTSIDE* our organization. > Please do not open/download any attachment or click any link unless you > know it's safe. > > Many people from big companies/networks are either member of NANOG or > following/reading NANOG from archives. > > I was also going to ask if anyone / any company can sponsor (feeless) IPv4 > /24 prefix for my educational research network? (as209395) > > We do not do or allow SPAM/spoofing and other illegal stuff, we have RPKI > records and check RPKI of BGP peers. > > We also consider to have BGP session with HE.net and CogentCo in the > future, so we can re-announce their single-homed prefixes to each other, as > charity. For the good of everyone on the internet.. > > Mr. M.Leber from He.net also stopped feeless BGP tunnel service, as he has > not seen financial benefit, while still talking about community-give-back?! > And he still seeks feeless peering from CogentCo, you get what you > give.whatever goes around comes around > > Thanks for reading, best regards and wishes > > > > 29.09.2023 09:57 tarihinde Vasilenko Eduard yazdı: > > Well, it depends. > > The question below was evidently related to business. > > IPv6 does not have yet a normal way of multihoming for PA prefixes. > > If IETF (and some OTTs) would win blocking NAT66, > > Then /48 propoisiton is the proposition for PA (to support multihoming). > > Unfortunately, it is at least a 10M global routing table as it has been > shown by Brian Carpenter. > > Reminder, The IPv6 scale on all routers is 2x smaller (if people would use > DHCP and longer than/64 then the scale would drop 2x additionally). > > Hence, /48 proposition may become 20x worse for scale than proposed > initially in this thread. > > Eduard > > *From:* NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei....@nanog.org > <nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei....@nanog.org>] *On Behalf Of *Owen > DeLong via NANOG > *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2023 7:11 AM > *To:* VOLKAN SALİH <volkan.salih...@gmail.com> <volkan.salih...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ? > > > > Wouldn’t /48s be a better solution to this need? > > > > Owen > > > > > > > On Sep 28, 2023, at 14:25, VOLKAN SALİH <volkan.salih...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > hello, > > I believe, ISPs should also allow ipv4 prefixes with length between > /25-/27 instead of limiting maximum length to /24.. > > I also believe that RIRs and LIRs should allocate /27s which has 32 IPv4 > address. considering IPv4 world is now mostly NAT'ed, 32 IPv4s are > sufficient for most of the small and medium sized organizations and also > home office workers like youtubers, and professional gamers and webmasters! > > It is because BGP research and experiment networks can not get /24 due to > high IPv4 prices, but they have to get an IPv4 prefix to learn BGP in IPv4 > world. > > What do you think about this? > > What could be done here? > > Is it unacceptable; considering most big networks that do > full-table-routing also use multi-core routers with lots of RAM? those > would probably handle /27s and while small networks mostly use default > routing, it should be reasonable to allow /25-/27? > > Thanks for reading, regards.. > > > > > *Jason Baugher, Network Operations Manager* > 405 Emminga Road | PO Box 217 | Golden, IL 62339-0217 > P (217) 696-4411 | F (217) 696-4811 | *www.adams.net* > <http://www.adams.net/> > [image: Adams-Logo] <http://adams.net/> > ------------------------------ > The information contained in this email message is PRIVILEGED AND > CONFIDENTIAL, and is intended for the use of the addressee and no one else. > If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute, > reproduce or use this email message (or the attachments) and notify the > sender of the mistaken transmission. 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