> On Nov 16, 2023, at 21:57, Ryan Hamel <r...@rkhtech.org> wrote: > > Christopher, > > A residential customer would be getting their /56 from the providers pool via > RA or DHCPv6. With a /32 aggregate, it can handle 1.6 million /56 > delegations, which can cover a few regions. It all depends on the planning > going into splitting up the aggregate.
Or, if the provider isn’t stingy a /48 from the providers /≤32 (providers can get as many /48s as they need to support whatever number of customers receiving them, at least in the ARIN region). > A rule of thumb I go by in the datacenter is, a /48 per customer per site, > and further splitting it into /64s per VLAN, all of which can be plugged into > a spreadsheet formula to produce a valid complete subnet. > > Either way, keeping track of IPAM via spreadsheet is a recipe for disaster. > NetBox and Nautobot are my choices, and is worth deploying on a server or > VPS, even for home labs. On this, we agree. It’s just not what spreadsheets do. Owen > > Ryan > > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech....@nanog.org> on behalf of > Christopher Hawker <ch...@thesysadmin.au> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 3:52:59 PM > To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com>; Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: ipv6 address management - documentation > > Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care > when clicking links or opening attachments. > > One of the first things that comes to mind, is that if you were to breakout a > /64 v6 subnet (a standard-issue subnet to a residential customer) in an Excel > spreadsheet, the number of columns you would need is 14 digits long. You > could breakout the equivalent of a /12 v4 in just one column. Understandably > in the real world no one (in their right mind) would do this, this is just > for comparison. > > Regards, > Christopher H. > From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin...@nanog.org> on behalf of Owen > DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 10:39 AM > To: Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: ipv6 address management - documentation > > Spreadsheets are terrible for IPAM regardless of address length, but I am > curious to know why you think IPv6 would be particularly worse than IPv4 in > such a scenario? > > Owen > > > > On Nov 16, 2023, at 10:02, Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> wrote: > > > > For years I've used an MS Excel spreadsheet to manage my IPv4 addresses. > > IPv6 is going to be maddening to manage in a spreadsheet. What does > > everyone use for their IPv6 address prefix management and documentation? > > Are there open source tools/apps for this? > > > > -- > > -Aaron > >