It’s recently come to my attention that I must stand partially corrected in what I said below.
Apparently, Tata is rejecting routes that have neither RPKI nor an RIR-based IRR record created after 1993. This means that virtually all legacy holders who change IRRs or make any of a number of other possible updates to their IRR data will be unreachable to single-homed Tata customers (and unable to reach them). This unfortunate choice by Tata is likely to become a trend in the future, but I figured it would be several more years before that happened. In fact, I was hoping it wouldn’t really take shape in a meaningful way until IPv4 lost its relevance. Unfortunately, Tata has decided to take the lead in disconnecting legacy prefix holders and pushing the RIR contract agenda. Owen > On Nov 20, 2023, at 12:25, owen--- via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: > > The only advantage is not being subject to an RIR contract and not paying > annual fees. Especially with the fee structure games ARIN has been playing > over the last decade or so. > > I made the mistake of bringing my legacy resources under ARIN LRSA contract > once upon a time. I ended up transferring them to RIPE Non-Contract in order > to get out from under that arrangement. > > While you can’t get RPKI without paying annual fees, you can get IRR > services, just not from ARIN. > > You can use altdb as an IRR for free with legacy space without any issues at > all. > > It’s unlikely that lack of RPKI will be a significant drawback for the > foreseeable future. > > Worst case, if need arises, transfer your space to RIPE and make arrangements > with a RIPE LIR to “sponsor” your prefixes. This is usually around 70+EU per > year to the sponsoring LIR. Prices vary greatly, so be prepared to negotiate. > > Owen > > >> On Nov 20, 2023, at 10:59, Eric Dugas via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote: >> >> Greetings! >> >> Let's say you inherit legacy assets (ASN & IPv4 netblock), what are the >> first advantages that come to mind (beside not having to pay annual fees). >> >> Any disadvantages? The ones I can think of is the lack of RIR routing >> security services (in the ARIN region at least). No IRR, no RPKI at all. >> >> Eric >
