It would be better to keep the government out of it altogether, but that has 
little chance of happening. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Tom Beecher" <beec...@beecher.cc> 
To: "Dave Taht" <dave.t...@gmail.com> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>, "NZNOG" <nz...@list.waikato.ac.nz>, 
"<aus...@lists.ausnog.net>" <aus...@lists.ausnog.net> 
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2023 6:34:49 PM 
Subject: Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband 
speeds 


Trying to put technical requirements like this into law and public policy is an 
extremely terrible idea. This letter should never be sent. 


The regulatory agencies today don't have the manpower or expertise to 
adequately enforce the more generic broadband deployment rules. What fantasy 
world exists where they have the manpower or expertise to monitor for and 
enforce something like this? Hell, there are constant , legitimate technical 
discussions between experts on HOW to *properly* monitor things just like this. 
We want to have someone at the FCC deciding what that should look like? 


4.4 What the hell? The regulatory agencies should be allocating spectrum, and 
making sure it's not used improperly with the rules of allocation. Making it 
work 'better' is OUR job in the technical community. Not an FCC rulemaker. 


4.8 There are zero scenarios there should ever be regulatory rules about device 
software. In our space (non-ISP) , TONS of people run older versions of vendor 
code. Why? The shit DOESN'T WORK RIGHT YET and it causes other problems. You 
suggest that regulatory bodies be involved in dictating anything about this? 


The bufferbloat work belongs in the technical area, full stop. Nowhere near 
regulatory / legal. 


On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 7:57 PM Dave Taht < dave.t...@gmail.com > wrote: 


Over here: 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit
 

Us bufferbloat folk have been putting together a response to the FCC's 
NOI (notice of inquiry) asking for feedback as to increasing the 
broadband speeds beyond 100/20 Mbit. 

"Calls for further bandwidth increases are analogous to calling for 
cars to have top speeds of 100, 200, or 500 miles per hour. Without 
calling also for better airbags, bumpers, brakes, or steering wheels, 
(or roads designed to minimize travel delay), these initiatives will 
fail (and are failing) to meet the needs of present and future users 
of the internet." 

Comments (and cites) welcomed also! The text is still somewhat in flux... 


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