" every networking vendor, hardware vendor, and OS vendor"
How far are we from that, in reality? I don't have any intention on using the
space, but I would like to put some definition to this boogey man.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Hamel" <r...@rkhtech.org>
To: "Abraham Y. Chen" <ayc...@avinta.com>, "Vasilenko Eduard"
<vasilenko.edu...@huawei.com>
Cc: "Abraham Y. Chen" <ayc...@alum.mit.edu>, nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 11:04:31 PM
Subject: Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address
block
Abraham,
You may not need permission from the IETF, but you effectively need it from
every networking vendor, hardware vendor, and OS vendor. If you do not have buy
in from key stakeholders, it's dead-on arrival.
Ryan
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech....@nanog.org> on behalf of Abraham Y.
Chen <ayc...@avinta.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 6:38:52 PM
To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.edu...@huawei.com>
Cc: Chen, Abraham Y. <ayc...@alum.mit.edu>; nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
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Hi, Vasilenko:
1) ... These “ multi-national conglo ” has enough influence on the IETF to not
permit it. ":
As classified by Vint Cerf, 240/4 enabled EzIP is an overlay network that may
be deployed stealthily (just like the events reported by the RIPE-LAB). So,
EzIP deployment does not need permission from the IETF.
Regards,
Abe (2024-01-11 21:38 EST)
On 2024-01-11 01:17, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using it
> without announcement.
This is an assurance that 240/4 would never be permitted for Public Internet.
These “ multi-national conglo ” has enough influence on the IETF to not permit
it.
Ed/
From: NANOG [ mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei....@nanog.org ] On
Behalf Of Abraham Y. Chen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:35 PM
To: KARIM MEKKAOUI <amekka...@mektel.ca>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org ; Chen, Abraham Y. <ayc...@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
Importance: High
Hi, Karim:
1) If you have control of your own equipment (I presume that your business
includes IAP - Internet Access Provider, since you are asking to buy IPv4
blocks.), you can get a large block of reserved IPv4 address for free by
disabling the program codes in your current facility that has been disabling
the use of 240/4 netblock. Please have a look at the below whitepaper. Utilized
according to the outlined disciplines, this is a practically unlimited
resources. It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using
it without announcement. So, you can do so stealthily according to the proposed
mechanism which establishes uniform practices, just as well.
https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf
2) Being an unorthodox solution, if not controversial, please follow up with me
offline. Unless, other NANOGers express their interests.
Regards,
Abe (2024-01-10 07:34 EST)
On 2024-01-07 22:46, KARIM MEKKAOUI wrote:
<blockquote>
Hi Nanog Community
Any idea please on the best way to buy IPv4 blocs and what is the price?
Thank you
KARIM
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