If you are using IPv4 address that belong to someone else internally you really 
are in a prime position to use IPv6 only internally and use one of the IPv4AAS 
mechanisms to reach the IPv4 internet.  After a quarter of a century all your 
equipment should be IPv6 capable. 

-- 
Mark Andrews

> On 1 Feb 2024, at 19:57, Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2024, at 23:19, Frank Habicht <ge...@geier.ne.tz> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 01/02/2024 01:45, Tom Beecher wrote:
>>> Seems a bit dramatic. Companies all over the world have been using other 
>>> people's public IPs internally for decades. I worked at a place 20 odd 
>>> years ago that had an odd numbering scheme internally, and it was someone 
>>> else's public space. When I asked why, the guy who built it said "Well I 
>>> just liked the pattern."
>>> If you're not announcing someone else's space into the DFZ, or otherwise 
>>> trying to do anything shady, the three letter agencies aren't likely to 
>>> come knocking. Doesn't mean anyone SHOULD be doing it, but still.
>> 
>> Well...
>> 
>> If you're using 20.20.20.0/24 which is not "yours" (as I've seen happen), 
>> then certainly your customers can't get to the real 20.20.20.x
>> And even if that's not announced and used /today/ - this can change 
>> quickly...
>> 
>> Frank
> 
> You are repeating exactly the argument I made at the time.
> 
> Owen
> 

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