I don't think anything is 'easily fixed' on this topic. I do however hope that everyone accepts at face value that the board, staff, and PC are *trying* to do the right things here. Doesn't mean that it *will* always be the right thing, or even that a majority of people can agree on what the right thing actually is.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 1:05 AM Eric Parsonage <e...@eparsonage.com> wrote: > It's easily fixed by having a mixer at the same time for the other half of > the gathering population thus showing all the population gathering matters > equally. > > > > On 29 March 2024 2:50:19 pm ACDT, Ren Provo <ren.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I beg to differ here and second Ilissa’s comments. I miss WiT. Lunch >> during the meeting worked. Giving up more of the weekend to travel does >> not show half the population gathering matters. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 15:16 Morris, Tina via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Illissa, >>> The mixer is at 5pm Sunday, this allows people to network and prepare >>> for the week. Sunday also has a hackathon, registration, and often a >>> welcome social. NANOG has a very compressed schedule and another time would >>> actually mean that the women participating would have to pick between this >>> event and another event or talk that may be critical to their job >>> function, which is also unfair. >>> >>> We are advertising this mixer to make sure all are aware and can attend, >>> and the mixers will be on the schedule at the same approximate time at >>> each meeting going forward. >>> >>> I hope we will see you there. >>> >>> Tina Morris >>> >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2024, at 14:12, Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.sc...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> *CAUTION*: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do >>> not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and >>> know the content is safe. >>> >>> > While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary >>> caregivers for families and this will require them to desert their families >>> a day early. I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have >>> missed the mark. >>> >>> The hackathon has for (as far as I’ve known about it) been on Sunday. I >>> don’t work on Sundays - it’s a day for my family (unless the almighty pager >>> goes off), so I’ve never gone - even though it’s one of the parts of NANOG >>> I’d enjoy, and would benefit from the most. >>> >>> There are tradeoffs for everything - perhaps the idea was to keep the >>> women’s mixer separate from the other evening events, so that those who >>> wish to participate, can do all of the evening events, and not have to give >>> up anything, at the cost of the extra day. That being said, I agree, moving >>> more to Sunday is not an acceptable answer to me. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> -Thomas Scott >>> >>> On Mar 28, 2024 at 1:45:07 PM, Ilissa Miller <ili...@imillerpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG >>>> matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG >>>> announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all >>>> of the young professional women >>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart >>>> This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender >>>> You have not previously corresponded with this sender. >>>> >>>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd >>>> >>> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG >>>> matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG >>>> announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all >>>> of the young professional women who would like to participate in NANOG. >>>> While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary caregivers >>>> for families and this will require them to desert their families a day >>>> early. I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have missed >>>> the mark. >>>> >>>> The amount of times I hear people complain about having to leave their >>>> families is one of the reasons this industry has a problem keeping young >>>> people - especially women. >>>> >>>> Does anyone else feel the same? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Ilissa Miller* >>>> *CEO, iMiller Public Relations >>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.imillerpr.com__;!!I6uDfDBXfA!181DBJ-FtVXbxl2Cf3GD05kg0qsfnD4gdtQI9hJ64xq3Q6B0MHGT1XNwKAr9Vv-qdyTXEvwN7JrbIVyu$>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>