I'm no TAC engineer, but the purpose of FEC is to take and correct errors
when the port is going so fast that errors are simply inevitable. Working
as Intended.

Easier (read: cheaper) to build in some error correction than make the bits
wiggle more reliably.

No idea if that rate of increment is alarming or not, but you've not yet
hit your FEC cliff so you appear to be fine.

-Matt

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:40 PM Dominik Dobrowolski <
dobrowolski.dom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Open a JTAC case,
> That looks like a work for them
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dominik
>
> W dniu śr., 17.04.2024 o 21:36 Aaron Gould <aar...@gvtc.com> napisał(a):
>
>> We recently added MPC10E-15C-MRATE cards to our MX960's to upgrade our core 
>> to 400g.  During initial testing of the 400g interface (400GBASE-FR4), I see 
>> constant FEC errors.  FEC is new to me.  Anyone know why this is occurring?  
>> Shown below, is an interface with no traffic, but seeing constant FEC 
>> errors.  This is (2) MX960's cabled directly, no dwdm or anything between 
>> them... just a fiber patch cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> {master}
>> me@mx960> clear interfaces statistics et-7/1/4
>>
>> {master}
>> me@mx960> show interfaces et-7/1/4 | grep rror | refresh 2
>> ---(refreshed at 2024-04-17 14:18:53 CDT)---
>>   Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 1522, Speed: 400Gbps, BPDU 
>> Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source 
>> filtering: Disabled,
>>     Bit errors                             0
>>     Errored blocks                         0
>>   Ethernet FEC statistics              Errors
>>     FEC Corrected Errors                    0
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
>>     FEC Corrected Errors Rate               0
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors Rate             0
>> ---(refreshed at 2024-04-17 14:18:55 CDT)---
>>   Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 1522, Speed: 400Gbps, BPDU 
>> Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source 
>> filtering: Disabled,
>>     Bit errors                             0
>>     Errored blocks                         0
>>   Ethernet FEC statistics              Errors
>>     FEC Corrected Errors                 4302
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
>>     FEC Corrected Errors Rate               8
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors Rate             0
>> ---(refreshed at 2024-04-17 14:18:57 CDT)---
>>   Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 1522, Speed: 400Gbps, BPDU 
>> Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source 
>> filtering: Disabled,
>>     Bit errors                             0
>>     Errored blocks                         0
>>   Ethernet FEC statistics              Errors
>>     FEC Corrected Errors                 8796
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
>>     FEC Corrected Errors Rate             146
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors Rate             0
>> ---(refreshed at 2024-04-17 14:18:59 CDT)---
>>   Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 1522, Speed: 400Gbps, BPDU 
>> Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source 
>> filtering: Disabled,
>>     Bit errors                             0
>>     Errored blocks                         0
>>   Ethernet FEC statistics              Errors
>>     FEC Corrected Errors                15582
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
>>     FEC Corrected Errors Rate             111
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors Rate             0
>> ---(refreshed at 2024-04-17 14:19:01 CDT)---
>>   Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 1522, Speed: 400Gbps, BPDU 
>> Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source 
>> filtering: Disabled,
>>     Bit errors                             0
>>     Errored blocks                         0
>>   Ethernet FEC statistics              Errors
>>     FEC Corrected Errors                20342
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
>>     FEC Corrected Errors Rate             256
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors Rate             0
>>
>> {master}
>> me@mx960> show interfaces et-7/1/4 | grep "put rate"
>>   Input rate     : 0 bps (0 pps)
>>   Output rate    : 0 bps (0 pps)
>>
>> {master}
>> me@mx960> show interfaces et-7/1/4
>> Physical interface: et-7/1/4, Enabled, Physical link is Up
>>   Interface index: 226, SNMP ifIndex: 800
>>   Link-level type: Ethernet, MTU: 1514, MRU: 1522, Speed: 400Gbps, BPDU 
>> Error: None, Loop Detect PDU Error: None, Loopback: Disabled, Source 
>> filtering: Disabled,
>>   Flow control: Enabled
>>   Pad to minimum frame size: Disabled
>>   Device flags   : Present Running
>>   Interface flags: SNMP-Traps Internal: 0x4000
>>   Link flags     : None
>>   CoS queues     : 8 supported, 8 maximum usable queues
>>   Schedulers     : 0
>>   Last flapped   : 2024-04-17 13:55:28 CDT (00:36:19 ago)
>>   Input rate     : 0 bps (0 pps)
>>   Output rate    : 0 bps (0 pps)
>>   Active alarms  : None
>>   Active defects : None
>>   PCS statistics                      Seconds
>>     Bit errors                             0
>>     Errored blocks                         0
>>   Ethernet FEC Mode  :                 FEC119
>>   Ethernet FEC statistics              Errors
>>     FEC Corrected Errors               801787
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors                  0
>>     FEC Corrected Errors Rate            2054
>>     FEC Uncorrected Errors Rate             0
>>   Link Degrade :
>>     Link Monitoring                   :  Disable
>>   Interface transmit statistics: Disabled
>>
>>   Logical interface et-7/1/4.0 (Index 420) (SNMP ifIndex 815)
>>     Flags: Up SNMP-Traps 0x4004000 Encapsulation: ENET2
>>     Input packets : 1
>>     Output packets: 1
>>     Protocol inet, MTU: 1500
>>     Max nh cache: 75000, New hold nh limit: 75000, Curr nh cnt: 1, Curr new 
>> hold cnt: 0, NH drop cnt: 0
>>       Flags: Sendbcast-pkt-to-re
>>       Addresses, Flags: Is-Preferred Is-Primary
>>         Destination: 10.10.10.76/30, Local: 10.10.10.77, Broadcast: 
>> 10.10.10.79
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Aaron
>>
>>

-- 
Matt Erculiani

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