On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:21 PM Kevin McCormick <[email protected]> wrote: > > Might want to look at Audible Magic. > > https://www.audiblemagic.com/ > > They do identification and filtering of copyrighted content. > > University I worked at had a box that would identify students pirating > content and would then black hole their IP addresses.
Assuming that this isn't 'bittorrent' sorts of things where (aside from encrypted dht? I dont' know bittorrent, sorry) the traffic is probably encrypted/tls ... how would any of this realistically work? 1) install a CA on your client's machines - HAHAHAHAH no. 2) force-break the TLS inspect and send along - HAHAHAAHA also no. 3) by identifying already known 'bad sources' and classifying based on that? there are potentially a world of 'legit' streaming service endpoints, it seems like this sort of order (and work) is prone to huge failures in actually accomplishing the mission. > > Helped the University avoid receiving and processing DMCA notices. > > Thank you, > > Kevin McCormick > > -----Original Message----- > From: NANOG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike > Hammett > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 2:58 PM > To: NANOG <[email protected]> > Subject: Filtering "Illegal" Video > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside your organization. Exercise > caution when opening attachments or clicking links, especially from unknown > senders. > > I've never paid much attention to the abilities to filter traffic because I > didn't care what my customers were doing until which time a lawful order told > me to care. > > Someone recently asked me that since there was only one legal way in a > particular country to consume television service over IP, was there any way > to block the "illegal" streams. I put "illegal" in quotes because some of it > really is the pirated crap, but some is likely just watching Netflix, Prime, > Hulu, etc. over a VPN. > > With the tooling I have, no, I can't block that stuff. Well, at least not > with any precision. I'd certainly miss a bunch and there would be a bunch of > collateral damage. However, I also know that I'm not using overly > sophisticated tooling or methods to achieve this. > > Are there platforms out there that can accomplish this with any precision? > > No, I don't know what constitutes "TV" in that jurisdiction, nor do I ask > this group to weigh in on that. Are YouTube, Vimeo, and Rumble "TV"? Are > Netflix and Prime "TV"? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > >

