On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:21 PM Kevin McCormick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Might want to look at Audible Magic.
>
> https://www.audiblemagic.com/
>
> They do identification and filtering of copyrighted content.
>
> University I worked at had a box that would identify students pirating 
> content and would then black hole their IP addresses.

Assuming that this isn't 'bittorrent' sorts of things where (aside
from encrypted dht? I dont' know bittorrent, sorry) the traffic
is probably encrypted/tls ... how would any of this realistically work?

  1) install a CA on your client's machines - HAHAHAHAH no.
  2) force-break the TLS inspect and send along - HAHAHAAHA also no.
  3) by identifying already known 'bad sources' and classifying based on that?

there are potentially a world of 'legit' streaming service endpoints,
it seems like this sort of order (and work) is
prone to huge failures in actually accomplishing the mission.

>
> Helped the University avoid receiving and processing DMCA notices.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kevin McCormick
>
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> Hammett
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> I've never paid much attention to the abilities to filter traffic because I 
> didn't care what my customers were doing until which time a lawful order told 
> me to care.
>
> Someone recently asked me that since there was only one legal way in a 
> particular country to consume television service over IP, was there any way 
> to block the "illegal" streams. I put "illegal" in quotes because some of it 
> really is the pirated crap, but some is likely just watching Netflix, Prime, 
> Hulu, etc. over a VPN.
>
> With the tooling I have, no, I can't block that stuff. Well, at least not 
> with any precision. I'd certainly miss a bunch and there would be a bunch of 
> collateral damage. However, I also know that I'm not using overly 
> sophisticated tooling or methods to achieve this.
>
> Are there platforms out there that can accomplish this with any precision?
>
> No, I don't know what constitutes "TV" in that jurisdiction, nor do I ask 
> this group to weigh in on that. Are YouTube, Vimeo, and Rumble "TV"? Are 
> Netflix and Prime "TV"?
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
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