I'd like to apologise in advance for SOCA. Frankly, I am surprised that they are even aware of RIPE or its role in life. They have done so poorly since subsuming the old National Hi-Tech Crime Unit that the other police forces want NHTCU back.
It ought to be superfluous to point out that the only effective action taken against RBN was by the Internet community in getting all their upstreams to null route them. As is blindingly obvious, SOCA would never have been granted a warrant by the Russians. Pathetic to take it out on RIPE. -original message- Subject: RE: Interesting Point of view - Russian police and RIPE accused of aiding RBN From: "Martin, Paul" <paul.mar...@viatel.com> Date: 24/10/2009 9:23 am So considering they're widely regarded as a criminal network hosting the more dodgy/dangerous stuff on the net, surely we could 'protect' our customers by blocking the 91.202.60.0/22 range? Consider that can of worms opened :o) Paul -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net] Sent: 24 October 2009 08:18 To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Interesting Point of view - Russian police and RIPE accused of aiding RBN Since we're on the subject, here is where RBN went: inetnum: 91.202.60.0 - 91.202.63.255 netname: AKRINO-NET descr: Akrino Inc country: VG org: ORG-AI38-RIPE admin-c: IVM27-RIPE tech-c: IVM27-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PI mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT mnt-routes: MNT-AKRINO mnt-domains: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered organisation: ORG-AI38-RIPE org-name: Akrino Inc org-type: OTHER address: Akrino Inc. address: P.O.Box 146 Trident Chambers address: Road Town, Tortola address: BVI e-mail: noc.akr...@gmail.com mnt-ref: MNT-AKRINO mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered person: Igoren V Murzak address: Akrino Inc address: P.O.Box 146 Trident Chambers address: Road Town, Tortola address: BVI phone: +1 914 5952753 e-mail: noc.akr...@gmail.com nic-hdl: IVM27-RIPE mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '91.202.60.0/22AS44571' route: 91.202.60.0/22 descr: AKRINO BLOCK origin: AS44571 mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO source: RIPE # Filtered On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/russian-police-and-internet-registry-a ccused-of-aiding-cybercrime-2165 > > Some quotes from the article - > > Internet registry RIPE NCC turned a blind eye to cybercrime, and Russian police > corruption helped the perpetrators get away with it, according to the UK > Serious Organised Crime Agency > > [...] > > "RIPE was being paid by RBN for that service, for its IP allocation," he said. > "Essentially what you have - and I make no apologies for saying this is - if > you were going to interpret this very harshly RIPE as the IP allocation body > was receiving criminal funds and therefore RIPE was involved in money > laundering offences," said Auld. > > [...] > > "All we could get there was a disruption, we weren't able to get a prosecution > in Russia," admitted Auld. "Our biggest concern is where did RBN go? Our > information suggests that RBN is back in business but now pursuing a slightly > different business model which is bad news." > > [...] > > "Where you have got LIRs (Local Internet Registries) set up to run a criminal > business- that is criminal actvity being taken by the regional internet > registries themselves. "So what we are trying to do is work with them to make > internet governance a somewhat less permissive environment for criminals and > make it more about protecting consumers and individuals," added Auld. > RBN looked legitimate, says RIPE NCC > > In response to the comments that it could be accused of being involved in > criminal activity, Paul Rendek, head of external relations and communications > at RIPE NCC said that the organisation has very strict guidelines for dealing > with LIRs. > > "The RBN was accepted as an LIR based on our checklists," he said." 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