Precisely - I was saying that in order to add more point to your argument.
I wasn't disagreeing with you :)

Stefan Fouant, CISSP, JNCIE-M/T
www.shortestpathfirst.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com
> [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:49 PM
> To: Stefan Fouant
> Cc: jul; NANOG
> Subject: Re: D/DoS mitigation hardware/software needed.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Stefan Fouant
> <sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net> wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:05 AM
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:26 AM, jul <jul_...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> >> > Martin Hannigan wrote on 05/01/10 16:50:
> >> >
> >> > Outsourced services have higher cost than Arbor but can handled
> more.
> >>
> >> Do they? VerizonBusiness's solution was $3250US/month so ~$90USk
> over
> >> 2yrs. Arbor, I think, for a TMS + collectors was +100k.
> >
> > Don't forget to factor in OpEx.  This can often tilt the scales in
> favor of
> > one vs. the other.
> 
> sure, but just capex alone the 'make vzb do this' option wins. (I
> think at least, I'm not a math guy though...)


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