Could also just push default into OSPF from both ends (assuming you
have the iBGP between both borders) if your goal is redundancy.

-Jack Carrozzo

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Dylan Ebner <dylan.eb...@crlmed.com> wrote:
> You can still use vrrp in the inside. We have a similar configuration to what 
> you have defined. Two routers, 4 ISPs, BGP annoucing 2 /24's. We get partial 
> routes and prepend on 3 of the isps to only use our primary. Our primary is 
> delivered via fiber and the backup isps are delivered via copper ethernet. We 
> use interface tracking with reachability to determine if we are having a 
> problem with one of our downstreams. This way, if we still have a link light, 
> but no traffic flow we can detect and adjust accordingly.
>
>
>
> Dylan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beavis [mailto:pfu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:42 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Best Practice: 2routers, 2isp, 1AS
>
> thanks for the reply brian. :)
>
> sorry for a bit lack on the info, I was thinking of using VRRP. but my
> 2 links are running on different interface-types isp1 runs via
> ethernet while the other is on an ATM interface. I only have 1 router
> that has an ATM interface. setting it to VRRP would cause me problems
> if it was a physical failure. I have a small /24 to advertise on my
> AS. I'll go and check on the "Performance Based Routing" you
> recommend.
>
>
> thanks,
> -b
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Brian Feeny <bfe...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are alot more questions that need to be asked.  Like how much address 
>> space do you have to announce? What routes are you getting from each ISP?
>>
>> Assuming you are an end user, and knowing the very limited information I 
>> know at this point, I would make sure that these two routers LAN interfaces 
>> are in some sort of transit vlan/subnet with my downstream router, which 
>> would also be participating in iBGP.  Alternately you could have that router 
>> do VRRP/HSRP with your two border routers, but I prefer iBGP.
>>
>> I would then setup both routers using OER (Optimized Edge Routing, i think 
>> now known as Performance Based Routing), to handle outbound.  You could just 
>> announce your /24 out each provider (assuming that's what you had) to handle 
>> inbound, or if you have larger than that you could announce the aggregate 
>> out both and more specifics out each to do some type of balancing.
>>
>> Its hard to say there is a best practice here, as there are so many 
>> scenarios.  I will say that I like OeR/PfR for edge customers who are dual 
>> homed.  BGP is very arbitrary, and its nice to have some real metrics that 
>> mean something to play with :)
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Beavis wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings!
>>>
>>>   Want to ask out anybody on the list about a "best practice" of the
>>> setup below:
>>>
>>> - 2 ISP's (A & B)
>>> - 2 Routers (A & B)
>>>
>>> I want Router-A for ISP-A, Router-B for ISP-B and have Router-A &
>>> Router-B talk and be able to pass routes on each side in an event of a
>>> physical failure on one of the Routers.
>>>
>>> I was planning at first to setup a multi-home BGP, but I want to have
>>> physical redundancy as well.
>>>
>>> ASCII-diag
>>>
>>> =--[RouterA]--isp1(bgp)
>>> L    |
>>> A   iBGP
>>> N    |
>>> =--[RouterB]--isp2(bgp)
>>>
>>> Any recommendation would awesomely appreciated.
>>>
>>> -B
>>>
>>>
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