Hello Lee ,
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Lee Howard wrote:
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From: Joe Greco [mailto:jgr...@ns.sol.net]
It seems like you could run an RIR more cheaply by simply handing out
the space fairly liberally, which would have the added benefit of
encouraging v6 adoption. The lack of a need for onerous contractual
clauses as suggested above, combined with less overhead costs, ought
to make v6 really cheap.
For "fairly liberally" see:
For ISPs: https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six51
You have to be an ISP with a plan to have 200 assignment in 5 years
Non-ISP: https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six58
Be not-an-ISP and have a need for addresses (per other policies,
you get to choose which one).
In another post you asked essentially "why does ARIN charge so much?"
ARIN doesn't just maintain a notebook of address assignments. There are
HA servers for Whois, IN-ADDR. and IP6.ARPA, research in things like
SIDR, DNSsec, other tools-services, and educational outreach on IPv6.
You suggest that there's much less to argue about in IPv6 policy, but if
you look at current proposals (https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/)
you'll see three that are IPv6-specific, and most of the others cover
both IPv4 and IPv6. So ARIN will continue to maintain the mailing
lists, and hold public policy meetings (with remote participation, so
anyone can participate), and facilitate elections so you can throw the
bums out if you don't like how we do things.
We don't really know how much IPv6 will cost ARIN. If there were
no more debate about allocation policies, and nobody else had any interest
in us (politically or litigiously), and technology were fairly static, then
we
might just do periodic tech refreshes and be fine. I imagine all of those
things will continue for a while, though, and ARIN will need to be
financially solvent through the transition.
Your ARIN fee does not cover me posting here. That's gratis, and
worth it.
Lee
Thank you for posting those URL's I find a completely different
interpretation to the prose there .
<Quote>
6.5.8. Direct assignments from ARIN to end-user organizations
6.5.8.1. Criteria
To qualify for a direct assignment, an organization must:
1. not be an IPv6 LIR; and
2. qualify for an IPv4 assignment or allocation from ARIN under the IPv4
policy currently in effect, or "demonstrate efficient utilization of all direct
IPv4 assignments and allocations, each of which must be covered by any current
ARIN RSA", or be a qualifying Community Network as defined in Section 2.8, with
assignment criteria defined in section 6.5.9.
</Quote>
Note the ""'d section above . I as a Legacy holder of netname
baby-dragons HAVE to have a Signed RSA with Airn or I am NOT , by definition ,
Qualified .
I find the present lRSA an indecent attempt to undermine the present
Legacy ipv4 holders view of the rights presented them at the time of their
Assignments or Allocations . If I could find my OLD Ultrix Tarball or Dump
tapes from that era , and they are still readable , I might just be able to
present the conversations I had at that time with InterNIC while acquiring that
Legacy Space .
Might someone else have a Document or some other Recorded conversation ?
Twyl , JimL
ps: Back to haunting mode .
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