We provide full tables to customers that ask, 99% of the time they don't know what they are asking for and don't really need it. full tables doesn't cost anything more but we only do it for our 100+meg customers. I don't for example do BGP with T1 level customers.
-Matt ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patr...@ianai.net> > To: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org> > Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 5:46:22 PM > Subject: Re: Surcharge for providing Internet routes? > > On May 1, 2010, at 5:42 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > On 2010.05.01 16:43, ML wrote: > >> Has anyone here heard of or do they themselves charge extra for > >> providing a complete internet table to customers? > > > > ... I've never heard of it, but iow, I'd pay more if I could get my > > upstreams to provide the full table... > > > > Is there a market? I doubt it. > > Every "upstream" I've dealt with in the US & western Europe provides a > full table if you ask. Kinda the point of being an "upstream". > > There are some countries where "Bee-Gee-Pee" is not understood, and > they therefore do not speak it. > > If you buy transit from someone and they charge for setting up BGP and > sending you a full table in the US, Canada, and most of Europe, I'd > find another provider. That one probably isn't clueful enough to > provide good service. > > In other parts of the planet, well, they probably still aren't clueful > enough. :) But when the game is fixed, if it's the only game in town, > you sometimes have to play anyway. > > -- > TTFN, > patrick -- Matthew S. Crocker President Crocker Communications, Inc. PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com P: 413-746-2760