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Reference #11.1d9c1160.1285272538.81cae85 RD On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:46 PM, <nanog-requ...@nanog.org> wrote: > Send NANOG mailing list submissions to > nanog@nanog.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nanog-requ...@nanog.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nanog-ow...@nanog.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RE: IDS IPS (Ryan Bradley) > 2. Re: Odd BGP AS Path (Warren Kumari) > 3. Re: Odd BGP AS Path (Randy Bush) > 4. CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Deadline in 4 days: Sept 27, 11:59pm PDT) > (Ramana Kompella) > 5. Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Ernie Rubi) > 6. RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Paul Stewart) > 7. Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (chaim rieger) > 8. Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (andrew.wallace) > 9. Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Ernie Rubi) > 10. RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Justin Horstman) > 11. Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? (Steven Bellovin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:58:40 -0400 > From: "Ryan Bradley" <rbrad...@a1fcu.org> > Subject: RE: IDS IPS > To: "Joshua William Klubi" <joshua.kl...@gmail.com>, "North American > Network Operators Group" <nanog@nanog.org> > Message-ID: > <661feaf65459994780ce520e3f212ee4df5...@a1server4.a1fcu.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Joshua, > > We use the Juniper 2xx series IDP; highly recommended. We are a small > financial intuition with about 200 employees and 13 branch locations. > > I'd stay far away from SecureWorks if you're looking to manage the > device yourself; if you're looking for an overpriced managed solution > then they'd be okay. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua William Klubi [mailto:joshua.kl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:12 PM > To: North American Network Operators Group > Subject: IDS IPS > > Hi, > > I have been tasked to get the best IDS and IPS for our internal LAN and > WAN > in a Banking infrastructure. > I would like ask if any one has deployed in any network with such > technology, and also if any one can recommend > a very good IDS and IPS for me to recommend to management > > Thank you. > > Joshua > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:48:43 -0400 > From: Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> > Subject: Re: Odd BGP AS Path > To: Florian Weimer <f...@deneb.enyo.de> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <303a7c18-0831-4a8e-85ba-3600f87d0...@kumari.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > * Randy Bush: > > > >>> Probably a silly question, but can anyone explain to me this: > >>> 3561 3356 9031 {35821,35821,35821,35821} i > >> > >> please support draft-wkumari-deprecate-as-sets-00.txt > > > > Mere deprecation does not stop propagation of such paths. > > That's very true, but it *does* move us in the right direction -- > saying "Aggregation that results in AS_SETs is prohibited, off with > your head" isn't going to fly in the IDR WG when there are routes > that use them... > > Suggesting the people do not perform aggregation that results in the > creation of AS_SETs (and AS_CONFED_SETs), and that operators filter > such announcements will lead to a time where they just don't exist any > more [0] (and then can be removed from the protocol). > > We are also specifying that new BGP work does not need to support > AS_.*SET ;-) > > W > > -- > "Being the Fun-Police in the global Internet is a thankless - and > probably futile - task." > -- R. Whittle ("draft-whittle-sram-ip-forwarding-01.txt") > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:59:07 -0400 > From: Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> > Subject: Re: Odd BGP AS Path > To: Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <m2zkv8h5fo.wl%ra...@psg.com <m2zkv8h5fo.wl%25ra...@psg.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > just to uncloak a bit. when we first decided to look at deprecating > as-sets et alia, we begged olaf maennel to analyse the use thereof. the > following is edited from internal email from early august. we then > begged one of our number, warren, to do the dirty, and he was kind > enough to do so. we owe him. > > --- > > using data from ripe r00 > > years total real > stable as-sets as-sets > 7 4 2 > 6 6 2 > 5 20 3 > 4 22 5 > 3 64 16 > 2 214 87 > 1 875 289 > > years stable is how many years that as-set was announced for that > prefix. > > total as-sets is the number of prefixes that had any as-set. > > real as-sets is the number of prefixes with as-sets which were not > singleton asns and were not private asns. > > olaf scanned for ten years but none were stable for more than seven. > > in ten years, 1205 different prefixes with as-sets were seen. removing > private asns and removing singletons left only 404 prefixes over the ten > years. > > he did not check for covering prefixes, i.e. two prefixes with the same > as-set where one was a sub-prefix of the other, longer, one. > > and i suspect the data are somewhat self-similar. i.e. the 289 that > were stable for the last year may have shorter term components which > were much higher. i.e. looking at data for a week or a day may give > higher values. > > a graph which should be pretty self-explanitory may be found at > > > http://archive.psg.com/fraction-and-absolute-number-of-ASsets-in-table-over-time-valids-only.pdf > > it is interesting that, at no time, i.e. in no single rib dump, were > there more than 23 prefixes with as-sets. while this is suspicious, it > seems to be true. > > randy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:10:57 -0400 > From: Ramana Kompella <kompe...@cs.purdue.edu> > Subject: CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Deadline in 4 days: Sept 27, 11:59pm PDT) > > To: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <20100923161057.ga7...@tirupati> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > *** APOLOGIES IF YOUR RECEIVED MULTIPLE COPIES OF THE CFP *** > > *** EXTENDED FIRM DEADLINE in exactly 4 days: Sept 27, 11:59pm PDT *** > > > COMSNETS 2011 > The THIRD International Conference on COMunication Systems and NETworks > January 4-8, 2011, Bangalore, India > http://www.comsnets.org > (In Co-operation with ACM SIGMOBILE) > (Technically Co-Sponsored by IEEE COMSOC) > > The Third International Conference on COMmunication Systems and > NETworkS (COMSNETS) will be held in Bangalore, India, from 4 January > 2011 to 8 January 2011. 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K. Ramakrishnan, AT&T, USA > Victor Bahl, Microsoft Research, USA > Sunghyun Choi, Seoul National U., Korea > Sajal Das, U. Texas at Arlington, USA > B. N. Jain, IIT Delhi, India > Anurag Kumar, IISc, Bangalore, India > L. M. Patnaik, IISc, Bangalore, India > Krithi Ramamritham, IIT Bombay, India > Parmesh Ramanathan, U. Wisconsin, USA > Krishan Sabnani, Alcatel-Lucent, USA > Kang Shin, U. Michigan, USA > Nitin Vaidya, U. Illinois, USA > > University Partners: > -------------------- > IIT Bombay, IIT Delhi, IISc Bangalore, IIT Hyderabad, NIIT University, IIIT > Bangalore, BITS Pilani > > > Patrons: > -------- > Mobile Monday Bangalore, Sasken, IBM Research, Alcatel Lucent > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:15 -0400 > From: Ernie Rubi <erne...@cs.fiu.edu> > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <e5e97806-a338-4b41-8421-39b2d3ec3...@cs.fiu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly > peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't > reach them. > > Ernesto M. Rubi > Sr. Network Engineer > AMPATH/CIARA > Florida International Univ, Miami > Reply-to: erne...@cs.fiu.edu > Cell: 786-282-6783 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:40:59 -0400 > From: "Paul Stewart" <pstew...@nexicomgroup.net> > Subject: RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: "Ernie Rubi" <erne...@cs.fiu.edu>, <nanog@nanog.org> > Message-ID: > <c0a98bb6dafaab46a78bba2c51b98f3e01b6f...@nexus.nexicomgroup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Over on the outages list there is a lot of discussion... I believe > everyone is effected - we are peered with them in several locations and > cannot reach them. > > Paul > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernie Rubi [mailto:erne...@cs.fiu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 3:39 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and > directly peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we > still can't reach them. > > Ernesto M. Rubi > Sr. Network Engineer > AMPATH/CIARA > Florida International Univ, Miami > Reply-to: erne...@cs.fiu.edu > Cell: 786-282-6783 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:41:04 +0000 > From: "chaim rieger" <chaim.rie...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: "Ernie Rubi" <erne...@cs.fiu.edu>,nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: > > > <471277240-1285270865-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-13243980...@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Yes tis down. Watch productivity go up > ------Original Message------ > From: Ernie Rubi > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > Sent: Sep 23, 2010 12:39 > > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly > peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't > reach them. > > Ernesto M. Rubi > Sr. Network Engineer > AMPATH/CIARA > Florida International Univ, Miami > Reply-to: erne...@cs.fiu.edu > Cell: 786-282-6783 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com> > Subject: Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: Ernie Rubi <erne...@cs.fiu.edu> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <581294.59169...@web59605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Over the last 30 minutes or more (UK) > > Andrew > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ernie Rubi <erne...@cs.fiu.edu> > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thu, 23 September, 2010 20:39:15 > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly > peer > with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't reach > them. > > Ernesto M. Rubi > Sr. Network Engineer > AMPATH/CIARA > Florida International Univ, Miami > Reply-to: erne...@cs.fiu.edu > Cell: 786-282-6783 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:39:15 -0400 > From: Ernie Rubi <erne...@cs.fiu.edu> > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <e5e97806-a338-4b41-8421-39b2d3ec3...@cs.fiu.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and directly > peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we still can't > reach them. > > Ernesto M. Rubi > Sr. Network Engineer > AMPATH/CIARA > Florida International Univ, Miami > Reply-to: erne...@cs.fiu.edu > Cell: 786-282-6783 > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:43:44 -0700 > From: Justin Horstman <justin.horst...@gorillanation.com> > Subject: RE: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: 'Ernie Rubi' <erne...@cs.fiu.edu>, "nanog@nanog.org" > <nanog@nanog.org> > Message-ID: > > > <8c164d3baf7c7f41b9b286385037b1310d3646d...@lax-exch-fe-01.gorillanation.local > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Via http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/facebook.com > > It's not just you! http://facebook.com looks down from here. > > Also down from LA, qwest has been having issues today as well, not sure if > its related. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ernie Rubi [mailto:erne...@cs.fiu.edu] > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 12:39 PM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > > > > Anyone else having trouble? We're colo'ed at the NOTA in Miami and > > directly peer with them - even though our session hasn't gone down we > > still can't reach them. > > > > Ernesto M. Rubi > > Sr. Network Engineer > > AMPATH/CIARA > > Florida International Univ, Miami > > Reply-to: erne...@cs.fiu.edu > > Cell: 786-282-6783 > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:46:33 -0400 > From: Steven Bellovin <s...@cs.columbia.edu> > Subject: Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast? > To: Paul Stewart <pstew...@nexicomgroup.net> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Message-ID: <9dfeee61-5562-4157-841a-5c1b9eea5...@cs.columbia.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Sep 23, 2010, at 3:40 59PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > > > Over on the outages list there is a lot of discussion... I believe > > everyone is effected - we are peered with them in several locations and > > cannot reach them. > > > > http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/09/22/facebook-goes-down-for-some-users/ > > > > > --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NANOG mailing list > NANOG@nanog.org > https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog > > End of NANOG Digest, Vol 32, Issue 82 > ************************************* > -- Rudi Daniel *danielcharles consulting<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774> **1-784 498 8277<http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kingstown-Saint-Vincent-and-the-Grenadines/DanielCharles/153611257984774> * * *