----- Original Message -----
> From: "david raistrick" <dr...@icantclick.org>
> To: "Andrew Kirch" <trel...@trelane.net>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:05:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert!
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
> >
> >> No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook
> >> is
> >> not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut,
> >> power
> >
> > not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
> 
> 
> to be clear, I could give a damn about if we talk about this on nanog
> or
> not. (and I agree that outages is the right place to announce outages,
> and outage-discuss to discuss them).
> 
> 
> my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content
> provider,
> and (much like, say, google) provide both content AND service. I have
> dependancies on facebook's (as do many many others who perhaps dont
> yet
> hire folks who even know what nanog is but someday will) services.
> without them, my teams can't work and my employeer loses signiicant
> figures of revenue per day.
> 
> so facebook is very much operationally relevant for my network, and
> that
> these mixed content/service providers will be more and more relevant
> as
> time goes on and we as a community should figure out how to deal with
> their transition from pure content to perhaps some day pure service.
> 


This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a 
giant panty raid.  This isn't the outages list & I am rather annoyed that we 
must discuss junk social media sites such as facebook.  Just because you are 
panicing does not mean that the thousands of people on this list give a flying 
rats ass that facebook is down!
Can we please discuss relevant topics such as running networks? (for instance 
NOT @#...@#$ing FACEBOOK!)
This list over the last year has just gone soo far downhill that I am most 
likely going to unsubscribe from it as I don't get any technical benefit from 
the garbage that is discussed on this list 99.999999999999999% of the time.  

--Tammy


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Tammy A Wisdom
The Summit Open Source Development Group
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