On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:25:39 -0400 Scott Reed <sr...@nwwnet.net> wrote:
> Why would the assumption be the ISP = knowledgeable or even caring about > RIRs, etc.? > > When I started my ISP 6 years ago I knew someone issued IP addresses to > my upstream provider, but I really didn't care who that was. The > upstream took care of everything related to getting and assigning > addresses as far as I was concerned. Even when I changed upstream > providers they took care of the addresses. It was at that time I > realized I need to learn more about the whole IP address assignment > process so I wouldn't have to renumber next time I changed providers. I > dug far enough to find that my ISP was not big enough to get an > assignment and the required fee was more than the cost to renumber, so I > didn't look any farther. > > So, as a log of start-ups and small businesses do, I learned enough to > make what I needed work, but not everything that may have been beneficial. > So maybe to state the obvious, IPv4 != IPv6, and therefore in Jack's situation something different needs to be done, such as those ISPs learning about RIRs, LIRs etc. sooner rather than later. > > On 10/26/2010 3:20 PM, George Bonser wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:23 AM > >> To: Randy Carpenter > >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org > >> Subject: Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? > >> > >> On 10/26/2010 1:01 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > >>> Wait... If you are issuing space to ISPs that are multihomed, they > >>> should be getting their own addresses. Even if they aren't > >>> multihomed, they should probably be getting their own addresses. Why > >>> would you be supplying them with address space if they are an ISP? > >>> > >> Because they are my customer. They don't know much about RIRs, paying > >> membership fees, etc. They just know they want address space, and I > >> provide that. > > If they are ISPs and don't know much about RIRs, can you please name them > > and provide their ASNs ... oh, wait ... they won't have an ASN if they > > don't know about RIRs and fees and such. > > > > Something isn't passing the smell test here. > > > > -- > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays Networking, LLC > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > Mikrotik Advanced Certified > www.nwwnet.net > (765) 855-1060 > > >