X.25 is very useful for non TCP applications, especially in places where the 
infrastructure is less-than-modern.

X.25 used as a layer 2 transport (even though it is not technically a L2 
protocol, but then neither is ATM) is useful because it has error checking.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


On Nov 2, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Julio Arruda wrote:

> There used to be quite substantial usage of X.25 in Brazil, for a lot longer 
> than usual, for POS transactions. x.28 in fact, that would be PAD to X.25, 
> may still be the case ? (RENPAC and 3028 come to mind)
> 
> The management of some Nortel GSM devices also could be done over X.25, 
> usually, it would be backhauled over XOT (or in this case, the Nortel 
> equivalent) to the management station, from the devices (I'm happy to say, I 
> don't remember if from the BSCs, or BTSs).
> Of course, QLLC and running QLLC to LLC (token ring) devices, was the cherry 
> on top..SNA on top of X.25, converting to token ring SNA..
> 
> Somehow, I can't get rid of the nightmares and the waking in the middle of 
> the night, thinking about LAPB, and Clear codes and etc., LUs and PUs...the 
> horror...the horror..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
> 
>> doesn't most of SMS (the crap on GSM's) also run on x.25?
>> 
>> i recall some customer of mine talking X.25 to a telco to get their messages 
>> to the phones anyway.
>> 
>> same for one of our banks not so very long ago...
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
>> 
>>>> Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation?  I had some 
>>>> peripheral involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and hear 
>>>> it shut down sometime in 2003-4.
>>> 
>>> http://www.ram.nl/nl/aanbieder_van_mobiele_datacommunicatie/diensten/netwerkdiensten?read_more=1323735124421760482
>>> 
>>> also: yep.
>>> 
>>> commercial x.25 based packet radio networks, and the wired parts to keep 
>>> them together, are still around.
>>> 
>>> (the non-commercial ones also ofcourse ;)
>>> 
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>>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Chris Boyd wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>>>>> And FDDI and X.25 and every single legacy protocol
>>>> Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation?  I had some 
>>>> peripheral involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and hear 
>>>> it shut down sometime in 2003-4.
>>>> --Chris
>>> 
>> 
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