With the latest IOS you MUST use loopback addresses or the Tunnel will not form, regardless of the class settings especially if using a L3 router temination device(s). SRR
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Jeff Saxe <js...@briworks.com> wrote: > From: Jeff Saxe <js...@briworks.com> > Subject: RE: Ciscos, BGP, L2TPV3 pseudowires and loopback IPs > To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>, "James Smallacombe" <u...@3.am> > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 4:29 AM > Agreed: We used to use L2TPv3 tunnels > fairly often to provide nailed-up private VLAN services to > clients when we could only procure a Layer 3 circuit from > another provider. They're pretty simple to set up and work > reliably, although you may need to maintain both ends of the > L2TPv3 at approximately matching IOS versions... at one > point we had a perfectly working customer, then I upgraded a > router at one end of the tunnel, and they suddenly had > major, unexplainable packet loss all through the day. After > I upgraded the other end, it returned to working fine. > > But yeah, you don't really need a loopback. We routinely > terminated the tunnels on the WAN address closest to the > Internet. I think the only time I had to introduce a > loopback was when one router was a tunnel terminator for two > far-end locations, and when I tried to configure the second > peer it complained at me. Also one time I wanted to have two > parallel tunnels between the same source and destination > routers (which is perfectly fine, because it has a tunnel > discriminator number that keeps the two customers' traffic > separate), except I also wanted to do some fancy QoS > prioritization on one of them. By the time the traffic hits > the WAN interface, the tunnel discriminator is buried too > far down in the packet to use any "match" statements in the > QoS, so I made one of the tunnels have a separate L2TPv3 > endpoint on each router, and then I could just match on > destination IP address. > > But that was a weird edge case. Most of the time we just > used the outside Internet address, either T1 or Ethernet. > Email me back privately if you want me to dig up the configs > out of our CatTools archive. > > -- Jeff Saxe > Blue Ridge InternetWorks > Charlottesville, VA > > > ________________________________________ > From: David Freedman [david.freed...@uk.clara.net] > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:22 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Ciscos, BGP, L2TPV3 pseudowires and loopback > IPs > > e. > > > > We will need to set up a L2TPV3 tunnel to their old > location (single > > homed, no BGP on that side). Upon initial > reading of Cisco docs to do > > this, we will need a routable IP on a loopback > interface for starters. > > I'm pretty sure this is just a recommendation based on good > practise > (routeability to endpoints), I'm sure since you are not > multihomed you > can just use "ip local interface WAN1" and be done with it, > I seem to > remember doing something similar in an l2tpv3 pw class and > it working. > > > > > Using one from the /24 LAN is out unless we subnet it, > which we don't > > want to do. > > > > So the question is, can I just "move" the PTP IP > address x.x.129.174 > > from the WAN interface to the loopback like this? > > > > interface Loopback0 > > ip address x.x.129.174 > 255.255.255.252 (that's the mask we're using on > > > the WAN- Cisco's loopback examples show > .255) > > > > interface WAN1 (actually a gigether) > > ip unnumbered loopback0 (or no > ip addr?) > > > > neighbor x.x.128.173 update-source Loopback0 > > No, if you were to do this you should get a new transfer > network, you > can't have the same address on two interfaces (and in fact, > you should > really be stealing an address from your internal /24 which > doesn't > require any re-subnetting (if you are happy for this > address to be > unreachable) and it should have a /32 mask... > > -- > > > David Freedman > Group Network Engineering > Claranet Group > > > >