On Jan 8, 2011, at 8:54 AM, William Herrin wrote:

> I presume you don't intend us to conclude that a bastion host firewall 
> provides no security benefit to the equipment it
> protects.

If it's protecting workstations, yes, it has some positive security value - but 
not due to NAT.

If it's inappropriately placed in front of servers, where's there's no state to 
inspect and were the stateful nature of the device in and of itself forms a DoS 
vector, it has negative security value; i.e., it makes things far worse.

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Roland Dobbins <rdobb...@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>

Most software today is very much like an Egyptian pyramid, with millions
of bricks piled on top of each other, with no structural integrity, but
just done by brute force and thousands of slaves.

                          -- Alan Kay


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