On Feb 10, 2011, at 9:53 AM, Jack Bates wrote:

> On 2/10/2011 8:36 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
>> DS-lite is still CGN.
> 
> It is still LSN, but it is not NAT444, and the failure rate reduces because 
> of that. Also, DS-Lite guarantees that you have IPv6 connectivity. NAT444 
> makes no such assertion.

DS-lite *uses* IPv6 connectivity, it doesn't provide it.  That's like saying 
6rd or 6to4 "guarantees you have IPv4 connectivity".

As for NAT444 (or double-NAT):  One could just as easily deploy DS-lite with a 
NAT444 configuration.  Or deploy CGN without NAT444 (e.g. CGN44, by managing 
subnets delegated to each subscriber).  The two topics are related but separate.

In terms of CGN44 versus NAT444, I'd like to see evidence of something that 
breaks in NAT444 but not CGN44.  People seem to have a gut expectation that 
this is the case, and I'm open to the possibility.  But testing aimed at 
demonstrating that breakage hasn't been very scientific, as discussed in the 
URLs I posted with my previous message.

Cheers,
-Benson



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