On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, David Conrad wrote: > On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Yes... See ARIN NRPM 8.3 and Simplified Transfer Listing Service (STLS). > > ARIN allows the listing of non-ARIN blocks on their listing service? > No. If you're talking about inter-RIR transfers, then, that would be subject to draft policy 2011-1 which was reviewed at the recent Public Policy meeting in San Juan, PR and will be discussed by the AC again in May.
> Also, doesn't the Microsoft-Nortel transaction violate NPRM 8.3 in that > according to the court documents I've seen, Microsoft appears to have signed > an LRSA (not an RSA as would seem to be required by the NPRM and as mentioned > on ARIN's press release) and there doesn't appear to be anything suggesting > Nortel entered into any agreement with ARIN (RSA or LRSA, however I will > admit I haven't looked too closely)? > At the request of counsel, I am not going to comment on this. I do not have enough data available to me at this time to make any such judgment one way or the other. >> If you want to see changes to these, suggest submitting policy via ARIN PPML >> or suggestions via the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process (ACSP). > > As far as I can tell, the participants in ARIN's processes are more > interested in trying to be a regulator than in being a registry. Given ARIN > is not a government body and it does not have full buy-in from those who they > would try to regulate, I suspect this will directly result in a proliferation > of folks like tradeipv4.com, depository.net, etc. Unfortunately, I figure > this will have negative repercussions for network operations (unless someone > steps in and provides a definitive "address titles registry"). > We have, on multiple occasions agreed to disagree about this, so, it should not come as a surprise that I continue to disagree with you. Owen