On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, David Conrad wrote:

> On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> Yes... See ARIN NRPM 8.3 and Simplified Transfer Listing Service (STLS).
> 
> ARIN allows the listing of non-ARIN blocks on their listing service?
> 
No. If you're talking about inter-RIR transfers, then, that would be subject to 
draft policy
2011-1 which was reviewed at the recent Public Policy meeting in San Juan, PR 
and
will be discussed by the AC again in May.

> Also, doesn't the Microsoft-Nortel transaction violate NPRM 8.3 in that 
> according to the court documents I've seen, Microsoft appears to have signed 
> an LRSA (not an RSA as would seem to be required by the NPRM and as mentioned 
> on ARIN's press release) and there doesn't appear to be anything suggesting 
> Nortel entered into any agreement with ARIN (RSA or LRSA, however I will 
> admit I haven't looked too closely)?
> 
At the request of counsel, I am not going to comment on this. I do not have 
enough data available to me
at this time to make any such judgment one way or the other.

>> If you want to see changes to these, suggest submitting policy via ARIN PPML
>> or suggestions via the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process (ACSP).
> 
> As far as I can tell, the participants in ARIN's processes are more 
> interested in trying to be a regulator than in being a registry. Given ARIN 
> is not a government body and it does not have full buy-in from those who they 
> would try to regulate, I suspect this will directly result in a proliferation 
> of folks like tradeipv4.com, depository.net, etc. Unfortunately, I figure 
> this will have negative repercussions for network operations (unless someone 
> steps in and provides a definitive "address titles registry").
> 
We have, on multiple occasions agreed to disagree about this, so, it should not 
come as a surprise
that I continue to disagree with you.

Owen


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