Leo Bicknell wrote:
 In short, make it easy for the operators to participate at the right
time in the process.  It will be better for everyone!

Unfortunately, where you want to be inserted into the process is when everybody 
has
said their piece 80-dozen times and are tired and just want to get on with 
life. So
it doesn't matter whether you're an operator or the IESG -- you're not going to 
make
many friends at that point telling them they got it wrong.

On the other hand, is it really too much to ask operators -- especially big 
ones with
a vested interest in not having the IETF throw crap over the wall for them to 
debug --
to *hire* a liaison whose job is to monitor a swath of working groups, bofs, 
etc, and
participate the entire way through? I imagine they'd be pretty popular amongst 
clueful
vendors, and would give you a leg up knowing what's good and what's just 
sales-drek.

Mike

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