On 17 May 2012, at 00:47, Randy Bush wrote:

>> Could someone make:
>>  2) put the graphs at 'not rpki.net' on rpki.net (too)
> 
> no.  that is the exact point.  the graph to which i pointed is on rob's
> site.  these are data each relying party can collect and see for
> themselves and their point of view in the universe,

        Which I think it is a very valuable thing as a RP operator. I haven't 
used the lastest versions of RIPE NCC validator for myself but that would be a 
nice feature to have there as well. I will update my rcynic installation, I 
liked the graphs.

> not some central
> authority.
>  ripe/ncc thinks it is the center of the universe.  we do
> not.  we know it is in freemont [0], a neighborhood of seattle.

        I do not think that is the intention from RIPE NCC.

        The intention as I understood is to get the data that each RP is 
getting and to send it to central repository for further analysis. Which it is 
a centralized approach but for simplicity, not for thinking that they are the 
center of the universe.

        In my view there are 2 problems. One is to see as an RP operator how 
healthy are the repositories where you retrieve data (which for the url that 
you sent is done very nicely with rcynic), and two it is that as repository 
operator and protocol designers you'd like to see how good or bad your 
repository/protocols are doing to provide data to RPs in different locations of 
the world (which I think it is the aim of RIPE NCC effort).


> 
> so that url is very intentionally rob's relying party instance.  i have
> one at 
>   http://rgnet.rpki.net/
> but it has not been running as long as you can see.
> 
> and sorry that our certs did not pay godzilla or gobble for the
> privilege of being in their bowsers.  refund below [1]
> 
> randy
> 
> [0] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont,_Seattle
>      
> http://www.stonerforums.com/lounge/members/guiness-albums-stuff-picture19971-center-known-universe-freemont.jpg
>      
> http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image.aspx?f=1&guid=e712e7f5-0a55-4cc0-a40c-88deedce8d72&gid=3


        If anybody else is willing to share its data and URLs about their RP 
performance, I would be nice. I have an old rsync installation that I will try 
to update this weekend. Now it is here but does not show too much:

http://www.labs.lacnic.net/~rpki/rpki-monitor/rpki-ta-status.xml


Regards,
as



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