Yea, I know.
The one aspect of the whole thing is memorizing a brain dump is one thing; 
troubleshooting and fixing the problem with a supervisor screaming down your 
neck is another.
Without the hands on experience, the "memorizing" of the brain dumps will show 
up real fast in a NOC!

I was asked one time how long it took to learn networking, simple answer:
How it is supposed to work, not very long; what can go wrong and how to 
troubleshoot and correct the issue(s), a whole lot longer.

Curtis

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Hill [mailto:t...@ninjabadger.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 5:42 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: CBT Nuggets streaming account

On 11/06/12 22:15, STARNES, CURTIS wrote:
> There is a reason Cisco certs are not considered "Paper Mill Certs"
> and that you have to recertify every few years to keep up with new 
> equipment and technologies. That is what our community DOESN'T need, 
> Cisco certs that are looked upon like lot of the other manufacturer 
> certification courses.

Too late, sorry. Every man and his dog has downloaded PASS4SURE and memorised 
the answers to pass the exams. You can do this once every three years, no 
problem.

Sure, those candidates will be absolutely useless, but that doesn't stop the 
dilution of CCNA/CCNP certs in the market.

What will it do? It'll make the CCIE more important. What have Cisco done about 
it? Oh, they released a more prestigious, more expensive cert, didn't they? :)


Tom



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