On 7/14/12, Robert E. Seastrom <r...@seastrom.com> wrote: > > Actually, that's one of the most insightful meta-points I've seen on > NANOG in a long time. > > There is a HUGE difference between IPv4 and IPv6 thinking. We've all > been living in an austerity regime for so long that we've completely > forgotten how to leave parsimony behind. Even those of us who worked > at companies that were summarily handed a Class B when we mumbled > something about "internal subnetting" have a really hard time > remembering how to act when we suddenly don't have to answer for every > single host address and can design a network to conserve other things > (like our brain cells).
Suggestions? I feel like I should be able to do something really nice with an absurdly large address space. But lack of imagination or whatever.. I haven't come up with anything that really appeals to me. Thanks, Lee > -Hammer- <bhmc...@gmail.com> writes: > >> <bashes head against wall> >> >> Thank you all. It's not the protocol that hurts. It's rethinking the >> culture/philosophy around it. >> >> -Hammer- >> >> On 7/14/12 3:20 PM, "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com> wrote: >> >>>They're a bad thing in IPv6. >>> >>>The only place for security through obscurity IMHO is a small round >>>container that sits next to my desk. >>> >>>Besides, if you don't advertise it, a GUA prefix is just as obscure as a >>>ULA prefix and provides a larger search space in which one has to hunt >>>for it... Think /3 instead of /8. >>> >>>Owen >>> >>>On Jul 14, 2012, at 1:14 PM, -Hammer- wrote: >>> >>>> Guys, >>>> The whole purpose of this is that they do NOT need to be global. >>>> Security thru obscurity. It actually has a place in some worlds. Does >>>>that >>>> make sense? Or are such V4-centric approaches a bad thing in v6? >>>> >>>> On 7/13/12 8:41 PM, "Brandon Ross" <br...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Owen DeLong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> keep life simple. use global ipv6 space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> randy >>>>>> >>>>>> Though it is rare, this is one time when I absolutely agree with >>>>>>Randy. >>>>> >>>>> It's even more rare for me to agree with Randy AND Owen at the same >>>>>time. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Brandon Ross Yahoo & AIM: >>>>> BrandonNRoss >>>>> +1-404-635-6667 ICQ: >>>>> 2269442 >>>>> Schedule a meeting: https://tungle.me/bross Skype: >>>>> brandonross >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > >