On Dec 27, 2012, at 13:46 , randal k <na...@data102.com> wrote: > Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, we are trying to determine where/how we > receive it ... not necessarily influence it, as there isn't so much we can do > there as Netflix' egress policy is theirs and theirs alone (interestingly, > nobody has communities to influence Netflix' AS2906 traffic). We cannot peer > directly with Netflix as their openconnect statement requires 2gbps minimum, > and mentions elsewhere that the like 5+. We aren't at 2gbps yet, and we are > nowhere near one of their POPs -- it is way cheaper to buy 2-3gbps of cheap > transit than it is to buy 2-3gbps of transport from Denver to LA.
Ah, I misunderstood. Mea Culpa. I thought you were saying since they only had 1.4 Gbps to you, you wouldn't peer with them. Silly of me. The 2 Gbps is only for PNI, but yeah, I can see how paying to get to LA or Denver may be expensive. Although once you did, you could peer with a lot more than just Netflix. On the other hand, how much is it to get to Atlanta? Looks relatively close (miles-wise, don't know fiber routes in Tennessee). Anyway, while their egress decisions are theirs (as is true of everyone), they probably will be happy to discuss with you - once the holidays are over. -- TTFN, patrick > As mentioned, my notes to peer...@netflix.com have gone unanswered for the > holidays (not unexpected), so I thought I'd ping the hive mind for some info > in the meantime. > > Cheers, > Randal > > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> > wrote: > On Dec 27, 2012, at 13:19 , randal k <na...@data102.com> wrote: > > > I work at a datacenter in southern Colorado that is the upstream bandwidth > > provider for several regional ISPs. We have been investigating our > > ever-growing bandwidth usage and have found that out of transits > > (Level3,Cogent,HE) that Netflix always seems to come in via Hurricane > > Electric. (We move ~1.4gbps to Netflix, and are thus not a candidate for > > peering. And they have no POP close.) > > Your statement about peering makes no sense. You are trying to engineer > where their traffic comes and yet you refuse to have a direct connection > which would give you full control? Weird....... > > > > I tested this by advertising a /24 across all providers, then selectively > > removed the advertisement to certain carriers to see where the bandwidth > > goes. In order, it appears that if there is a HE route, Netflix uses it, > > period. If there isn't, it prefers Level3, and Cogent comes last. > > Completely unsurprising. > > > > Since Netflix is a big hunk of our bandwidth (and obviously makes our > > customers happy), we are included to buy some more HE. However, if Netflix > > decides that they want to randomly switch to, say, Cogent, we may be under > > a year-long bandwidth contract that isn't particularly valuable anymore. > > > > With all of that, I am interested in finding out of any knowledge about > > Netflix transit preferences, be it inside information, anecdotal, or > > otherwise. I did email peering@ but haven't heard back, thus the public > > question. > > Why don't you ask Netflix? > > And why not ask them for kit to put on-net? > <https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect> > > -- > TTFN, > patrick > > >
