On Feb 7, 2013 12:24 PM, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swm...@swm.pp.se> wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Scott Helms wrote: > >> That has not been demonstrated in the market. There are lots of people who say this, generally they're involved in building fiber plants, but in the US and Canada I've not seen a single report of an actual network where this was true. Do you have any documentation to this effect? I will also acknowledge that we don't have a large sample size in the US of plants built this way. > > > I never said there was installed base for this in north america. I have no knowledge of this. But I guess from your question that you wan to limit the discussion to what is commercially available today, which is a totally different question compared to what is best in the long run.
Not at all, but the problem I have with projected numbers are that they frequently end up being inaccurate in the long term. If we model off of real networks then we have a much greater chance of getting the actual costs correct. > > I know the service exists here in Stockholm, Sweden. Here we don't have Telcos who sue municipality networks for providing L1 and L2 services to anyone who wants to buy them. The regulatory comment isn't particularly relevant since there in MOST places in the US muni's are free to do the same thing. IIRC, there are only 5 states that significantly restrict munis from building access networks, though there are another handful that restrict them from offering specific services. For example, in Texas a muni may not offer voice services. > > However, the pricing model can still be worked on. Here it costs approximately 10 USD per month to rent this fiber from the central plant to the customer, meaning ISPs who have a lot of customers in a single place still opt to just rent a single operator fiber and then terminate the building fiber plant at the curb or in the building, instead of at the central (CO) plant when they light up multi-tenant buildings. That $10 price tag is an easy number to toss around and in some builds it might be accurate, but the costs for the L1 infrastructure vary tremendously so using it as a guestimation is pretty dangerous. It may well be accurate in Stockholm, but its not in much/most of the US. > > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swm...@swm.pp.se
