I know only too well that Verizon's peering with Cogent in the DC/IAD area is beyond saturated. Looking at the traceroute you have below it would appear to be the same problem:
>> 5 0.xe-10-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.165) 15.007 ms 15.109 ms >> 14.975 ms >> 6 144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209) 187.038 ms 115.363 ms 117.669 ms A handoff between Verizon and Sprint shouldn't incude a 100ms delay. Andy Andrew Fried andrew.fr...@gmail.com On 3/6/13 9:25 PM, Min wrote: > 3 traces all indicated the last hub are 80~100ms faster than the > second last hub. Interesting. > > Min > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Derek Ivey <de...@derekivey.com> wrote: >> I just got home and tested with quite a few 1080p videos. No issues over my >> Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. I did notice frequent stops to buffer on my >> FiOS IPv4 connection. I have a 50 Mbps down connection and don't even come >> close to maxing it when watching Youtube videos. >> >> Here are a few traceroutes: >> >> [2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(1): traceroute >> r19---sn-p5qlsm7d.c.youtube.com >> traceroute to r19.sn-p5qlsm7d.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.184), 64 hops max, >> 40 byte packets >> 1 L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1) 1.222 ms 1.348 ms >> 0.834 ms >> 2 G10-0-8-112.HRBGPA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.148) 2.839 ms >> 2.589 ms 2.443 ms >> 3 P12-0-0.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.27.185) 14.880 ms 14.614 >> ms 14.698 ms >> 4 so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.647 ms >> 14.696 ms 14.552 ms >> 5 0.xe-3-1-1.BR1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.141) 15.027 ms 15.004 ms >> 15.064 ms >> 6 te9-2-0d0.cir1.ashburn-va.us.xo.net (206.111.0.201) 38.517 ms 36.033 >> ms 34.816 ms >> 7 216.156.8.189.ptr.us.xo.net (216.156.8.189) 31.958 ms 30.994 ms >> 29.194 ms >> 8 209.48.42.86 (209.48.42.86) 124.931 ms 126.117 ms 124.303 ms >> 9 208.117.251.184 (208.117.251.184) 26.483 ms 27.792 ms 27.974 ms >> >> [2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(2): traceroute >> r15---sn-p5qlsm76.c.youtube.com >> traceroute to r15.sn-p5qlsm76.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.148), 64 hops max, >> 40 byte packets >> 1 L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1) 1.077 ms 0.863 ms >> 0.968 ms >> 2 G10-0-8-112.HRBGPA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.148) 2.429 ms >> 2.265 ms 2.456 ms >> 3 P12-0-0.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.27.185) 14.788 ms 14.666 >> ms 14.643 ms >> 4 so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.591 ms >> 14.479 ms 16.041 ms >> 5 0.xe-10-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.165) 15.007 ms 15.109 ms >> 14.975 ms >> 6 144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209) 187.038 ms 115.363 ms 117.669 ms >> 7 sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6) 116.263 ms >> sl-st31-ash-0-8-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.19) 116.491 ms >> sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6) 116.934 ms >> 8 sl-googl10-584821-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.205.34) 122.521 ms 122.780 >> ms 121.535 ms >> 9 208.117.251.148 (208.117.251.148) 33.669 ms 37.652 ms 38.478 ms >> >> [2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(6): traceroute >> r10---sn-p5qlsm7l.c.youtube.com >> traceroute to r10.sn-p5qlsm7l.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.47), 64 hops max, >> 40 byte packets >> 1 L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1) 1.159 ms 0.831 ms >> 0.806 ms >> 2 G9-0-4-212.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.139.126) 2.396 ms >> 2.435 ms 2.167 ms >> 3 so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.497 ms >> 14.767 ms 14.695 ms >> 4 0.xe-11-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.169) 15.001 ms 15.074 ms >> 15.024 ms >> 5 144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209) 118.582 ms 116.717 ms 113.669 ms >> 6 sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.169) 114.433 ms 117.698 >> ms >> sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6) 115.981 ms >> 7 sl-googl10-584821-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.205.34) 123.912 ms 124.402 >> ms 125.384 ms >> 8 208.117.251.47 (208.117.251.47) 30.591 ms 30.676 ms 29.528 ms >> >> Derek >> >> On 3/6/2013 8:31 PM, Grant Ridder wrote: >>> >>> Can any one provide traceroutes to youtube to see if there is any >>> correlation between last mile providers? >>> >>> -Grant >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Derek Ivey <de...@derekivey.com >>> <mailto:de...@derekivey.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I don't think it's just Time Warner. Definitely looks like XO. I have >>> Verizon FiOS and it was pretty bad for me as well (not sure if it >>> still is >>> since I'm not home right now). There's also atleast two threads in the >>> Verizon FiOS section on Broadband Reports: >>> >>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28027601-Horrible-youtube-speeds >>> >>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28071070-How-to-Reddit-YouTube-firewall-rule-with-MI424wr >>> >>> Derek >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Rick Coloccia >>> <coloc...@geneseo.edu <mailto:coloc...@geneseo.edu>> wrote: >>> >>> > I'd like to help, too, I'm from a TWC business class site with >>> 650 Mbps >>> > bandwidth and still regularly poor performance with YouTube. >>> > >>> > -Rick >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPhone 4S >>> > >>> > On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Christopher Morrow >>> <morrowc.li...@gmail.com <mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Randy Carpenter >>> <rcar...@network1.net <mailto:rcar...@network1.net>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Randy Carpenter >>> > >>> <rcar...@network1.net <mailto:rcar...@network1.net>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> We have recently been having some serious speed issues with >>> YouTube >>> > >>>> on our home connections, which are all Time Warner Cable. >>> > >>>> Some searching on forums and such revealed a work around: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Block 206.111.0.0/16 <http://206.111.0.0/16> at the router. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> this was reported elsewhere... it seems odd, since that's XO >>> space, >>> > >>> not Google and not TWC space. Would you care to engage in some >>> > >>> troubleshooting to help everyone out? :) >>> > >> >>> > >> I'll be happy to help troubleshoot in any way I can. >>> > > >>> > > excellent.. I'll arrange my ducks, let's chat offlist? >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >