On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM, David Conrad <d...@virtualized.org> wrote: > Chris, > > On Mar 19, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> With enough thrust, pigs fly quite well. Landing can get messy though... >> I was being serious... > > As was I.
:) >> put modern hardware to work and it gets simpler. > > Yes, applying more thrust makes things simpler: all you need is money, > bandwidth capacity, rackspace, power, cooling, time (to replace old > equipment), etc. Moore's Law will probably save us. Probably. > > But I know you know all of this. > tli says moore's law doesn't apply to routing gear (in the large-hardware world)... he's been wrong once or twice, but his slides seemed convincing (to me). I take your point though, there's a cost to getting out of the hole (if there is a hole,ie: @jabley) I also think we don't have to do this 'today', but getting the right plans in place to migrate in the right direction seems like an ok plan too. > Where I think things get a bit more interesting is if you assume smaller and > smaller businesses start seeing "always on" Internet sufficiently important > as to justify multihoming with PI. In the US alone there are 6M SMEs with > payrolls (21M without). Perhaps router vendors should adopt Doritos motto: > "crunch all you want, we'll make more"... > no doubt, this is marshall's numbers (or a form of them) from ~7+ yrs ago now? which ted and I used ~6 yrs ago to (un)successfully argue that we (the intertubes) need something more than multihoming as we have it today in ipv4/ipv6... sharing that state across the globe is expensive in today's hardware (or yesteryear's hardware). I totally think that as the intertubes become more and more 'critical' to people's business(es) we'll see more and more regulation that, as a side effect, leads to more reliable connectivity being demanded. That'll be nice, in a way :) anyway, we seem to mostly agree, which again makes me realize I'm not crazy... but I stil have wine and sandwiches, come along with jabley and I? -chris
