In message <cf4e9f59-4a9e-4e03-8eb4-469c3db15...@arbor.net>, "Dobbins, Roland" 
writes:
> 
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> >  Such lines are tantamount to extortion especially if the ISP supplies 
> commercial grade lines.
> 
> Patrick's talking about consumer broadband access.  Such AUP stipulations 
> are quite common.

I know and I would still argue that they are tantamount to extortion.

> This is in no way 'tantamount to extortion'.  Folks can either accept the 
> AUP, or choose not to enter into a contract for the service in question 
> under those conditions; there is no compulsion or coercion to do so.

So the home user that want to run a server now has to pay for COLO
or pay the ISP for it commercial line that is delivered over the
same physical circuit for extra dollars which gets what?  Maybe a
upgraded SLA and maybe some static addresses.

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