> > So, you are comfortable just giving up your right to privacy? It's just the 
> > way
> it is?
> 
> If you want to exercise your right to privacy, use end to end encryption and
> onion remixing networks to hamper traffic analysis.

Whoa.

These are two completely separate issues. I concur with you whole-heartedly; if 
you have something to keep private or something that is sensitive, protect it. 
That is your right, it is legal, and you should do it. I do.

But that DOES NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, in any way make it OK for the USG 
to ignore the fourth amendment. I should not have to "hamper traffic analysis" 
that is analyzing my traffic illegally. That is the bigger point here.

> Everything else is for the hopelessly gullible.

You mean, "Everything else is for the people who are OK with being snooped on 
by the government."

> > I'm sorry, I am not as accepting of that fact as you are. I am disappointed
> > and disgusted that this is, and has been, going on. Our government is 
> > failing
> > us.
> 
> What government is this, kemo sabe? Nanog has a global audience.

Fair enough, but I think we all know what I am talking about. 





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