-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:32 PM
To: Adam Vitkovsky
Cc: 'John van Oppen'; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

>>> route reflectors should be in the data plane, ...
>> I believe in modern networks data-plane and control-plane(s) should be 
>> separated as it provides for great scalability and versatility the 
>> drawback of course is a more complex system to manage.

>more complex systems scale poorly, break easily, and are hard to debug.
>oops!  all my competitors should have such 'modern networks.'

>randy

Well in the context of RRs complex systems have virtually endless
scalability, they are built with redundancy in mind so they don't break or
don't break easily and well as far as the debug goes, I think it's a matter
of how well are the Operations educated by the architects. 

adam


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