Just as a note. On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
> 1) Rate limit the software update download ("Us") > > 2) Have device OS download the update in the background, and be resilient > to failures with retries ("Manufacturer") > Apple already does this in the iTunes update the ios device mode. > 3) Don't present the update notification to the user until the update blob > is already cached on the device ("Manufacturer") > Apple also already does this. However, manual checks/updates can be done. When there is so much buzz on the news and given Apple customers zeal a large percentage manually invoke the update. > Only in a perfect world though. > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, joel jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote: > >> On 9/19/13 3:29 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: >>> Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not >> affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and >> never look back. I'm asking.. >>> >>> Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their >> software without destroying most last mile connectivity? >>> >>> Who else has had traffic surges like this? >> >> Flash traffic occurs, sometimes people fly planes into things, sometimes >> nuclear reactors melt down, earthquakes or hurricanes occur or cables >> are segmented due to underwater landslides. and what infrastructure that >> is left shifts abruptly from terrestrial to sattelite or gets droppped >> on the floor. the best you can ask for on an instantanious basis is >> graceful degredation under load. >> >> this happens to not be weather.so maybe you can do something about it. >> but ultimately a certain number of bytes have to be transfered and given >> the architecture, the flash was driven by the consumer and not by >> software automation, if we want the later to control it consumer choice >> has to be taken out of the loop, which may or may not be palatable. >> >>> And who else has a Nanog strike team coming in screaming buy more >> bandwidth? ;) >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mobile Device. >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Ryan Harden <harde...@uchicago.edu> >>> Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00) >>> To: Jeroen van Aart <jer...@mompl.net> >>> Cc: "<nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org> >>> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jer...@mompl.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote: >>>>> As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has >> happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in >> 2007. >>>> >>>> The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out >> there than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one phone, >> now you have tablets and what have you. >>> >>> The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many iDevices >> there are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple OS releases >> since they started. The only leeway I'll give you is that the original >> iPhone only supported 802.11b. With .11n and someday .11ac, the ability for >> these devices to consume data at a faster rate is also increasing. >>> >>>> >>>>> This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for >> Apple >>>> >>>> Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite, >> Apple==coolness? >>> >>> This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't take >> much searching to find people exclaiming how they have zero Apple devices >> or how they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I assumed (probably >> mistakenly) that the lack of knowing this is going to happen roughly 2-3 >> times a year was due to being 'too cool' to keep up with the stuff Apple >> puts out. >>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jeroen >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Earthquake Magnitude: 5.3 >>>> Date: 2013-09-19 17:25:09.350 UTC >>>> Location: 19km ESE of Ishikawa, Japan >>>> Latitude: 37.0716; Longitude: 140.6495 >>>> Depth: 22.22 km | e-quake.org >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >>