So even if Goog or Yahoo encrypt their data between DCs, what stops
the NSA from decrypting that data? Or would it be done simply to make
their lives a bit more of a PiTA to get the data they want?

-Mike



> On Nov 1, 2013, at 19:08, Harry Hoffman <hhoff...@ip-solutions.net> wrote:
>
> That's with a recommendation of using RC4.
> Head on over to the Wikipedia page for SSL/TLS and then decide if you want 
> rc4 to be your preference when trying to defend against a adversary with the 
> resources of a nation-state.
>
> Cheers,
> Harry
>
> Niels Bakker <niels=na...@bakker.net> wrote:
>
>> * mi...@stillhq.com (Michael Still) [Fri 01 Nov 2013, 05:27 CET]:
>>> Its about the CPU cost of the crypto. I was once told the number of
>>> CPUs required to do SSL on web search (which I have now forgotten)
>>> and it was a bigger number than you'd expect -- certainly hundreds.
>>
>> False: https://www.imperialviolet.org/2010/06/25/overclocking-ssl.html
>>
>> "On our production frontend machines, SSL/TLS accounts for less than
>> 1% of the CPU load, less than 10KB of memory per connection and less
>> than 2% of network overhead. Many people believe that SSL takes a lot
>> of CPU time and we hope the above numbers (public for the first time)
>> will help to dispel that."
>>
>>
>>    -- Niels.
>>

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